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101Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X - Page 3 Empty Re: Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X on Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:40 pm

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BoostMachineGun? Probably lots of headshots and melee. It 2hit KO's most enemies with headshots outside of Golds and Romanovs (the latter of which you can melee combo anyway). Ammo would be a (big) problem though since you're essentially left to RNG. Think a shotgun only run would be more fun honestly. Or perhaps Assault Rifle only.

No-ARS would also be pretty fun perhaps?

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102Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X - Page 3 Empty Re: Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X on Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:09 pm

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>left to RNG

Eh. This is what I was afraid of. Thought of doing a weird weapons only run, LFE, disk launcher and lock on laser for the whole game. Or maybe just something like pistol/disk launcher. Could be fun.

>shotgun of AR only

Certainly wouldn’t have to worry about ammo as much. Shotgun would still cause some issues though I would imagine?

>No ARS

That sounds brutal. Does auto AR count?

103Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X - Page 3 Empty Re: Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X on Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:28 pm

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> multiple weapon runs
There was a guy on Gamefaqs years back that did an all weapon combinations run without DLC. Was pretty interesting but from what I recall he mostly played it on Hard and as a cover-shooter. Still, interesting.

> Shotgun
There are a few points where you have to use a Sniper or rely on enemies attacking each other. The Pangloss Statue area is the hardest part of the game in that run imo.

> no ARS
Auto AR doesn't count since it lasts 0.5 seconds and you're probably dead anyway. But for style I'd say, don't get put into it.

NOTE ABOUT ZERO DEATH RUN
Bullseyestrider replied. He abused checkpoint resets. He thinks a single segment death run should be possible, but like me he thinks it would require grinding runs. Don't think we'll ever see it honestly. Just like a single segment zero death for NGII. Hell, just single segments of each chapter would be a miracle in that game imo.

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104Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X - Page 3 Empty Re: Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X on Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:04 pm

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>played on Hard

Challenge accepted.

>pangloss statue area

Goldens don’t die in one hit from the shotty do they?

>Auto AR

It’s amazingly useless on a LC run, there’s not enough time to kill anything. As soon as it activates I go into hiding.

>just like a single segment run of NG2

Sounds like this should be your next challenge run, ha.

105Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X - Page 3 Empty Re: Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X on Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:47 pm

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> golden gorgies
Ha! You'd wish. 2-3 shots up close, more at range. Here's my completion of that stage with Shotgun only: https://youtu.be/zPh0M1e3gcY?t=263

> single segment of NG2
It is on the list. I have dabbled in it and managed to get to Chapter 3 without dying, but Gigadeath ended me (as he always does). Have to note that this was a 'everything allowed' run, so plenty of abuse.

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106Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X - Page 3 Empty Re: Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X on Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:27 am

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Wow, didn’t think that would be possible. Will be watching your shotgun only run tomorrow.

>everything allowed run

How much does a NUR affect your ability to beat MN?

107Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X - Page 3 Empty Re: Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X on Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:16 pm

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> shotgun only
It's the run I'm probably the most proud of.

> NGII NUR
I already did a no-ninpo run without life-upgrades, pretty doable with maybe 3-4 moments there were really "oh dear, I might not make this" moments. A regular NUR would be okay I think. You'd mostly be hampered by some lacking moves and the low damage against bosses would be annoying too.
Worst would be everything after Chapter 11, as you essentially lose the Dragon Sword (since it auto upgrades).

It is on the list Razz

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108Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X - Page 3 Empty Re: Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X on Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:32 am

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Been binging your shotgun only playthrough, great stuff. Makes me think other single weapon plays are possible. That being said, I’m at the buzzard and I don’t know if I can kill it with the LC. Even without overheating at all I simply can’t get it below 35-40% health. Not sure what to do.

>hampered by lacking moves

Which ones in particular?

>it is on the list

You’ve said it, now you have to do it!

109Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X - Page 3 Empty Re: Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X on Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:00 am

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> lacking moves
I haven't really played with level 1 weapons, so I cannot be sure. But the tonfa lacks its drop-attack, claw misses most of its grabs, the lunar is pointless without its level2 UT to carry it, Kusari lacks 360Y to melt big enemies etc.

> buzzard
As in, you die when that happens or the craft just melts? Have you tried grenades? Could be a run exception. Note that it takes extra damage in the eye and back-engine.

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110Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X - Page 3 Empty Re: Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X on Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:26 pm

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The craft melts, I just can’t get enough damage in. EMPs don’t work while it’s grabbing on and I can’t get the grenades to work consistently. I just made an exception here, don’t think it was happening. Couldn’t find a video of anyone pulling it off either.

>Lunar is pointless without its level2 UT

Isn’t the lunar a favorite among more casual players? Is not as good on MN?

111Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X - Page 3 Empty Re: Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X on Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:05 pm

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The lunar is a favourite amongst beginners exactly because of its level 2 UT. At level 2 it gets the 360UT which is a good beginners weapon (high damage, high delimb and doesn't need to hit to get the full activation). It is a great all purpose attack. At level 3 it gets a great string as well (XYYYY) that is safe, has good i.frames and clears waves of foes.

But on a NUR it will be stuck on level-1, which means it has a really bad UT and no real other options. Only its XXY is worthwhile I'd say in that case.

> Vanquish

I'll give the craft a go in the future when I finish this run. Hate that you cannot have multiple playthroughs active at any given time!

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112Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X - Page 3 Empty Re: Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X on Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:39 pm

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Does all of that apply to the lunar in Sigma 2 as well?

Haven’t played my LC only run in a few days. Fear I may not finish it before Doom releases.

113Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X - Page 3 Empty Re: Vanquish 4k might be coming to X1X on Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:34 am

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Sigma 2 is slightly different as all weapons have their full air-combo at level 1 instead of 2, to compensate for the higher health of enemies. Still, at level 1, it is quite the crappy weapon and not worth using imo.

> DOOM
It is so close I can almost smell it.

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