The Vent Club

> Danganronpa
Ah, yes, I did mean V3. I forgot about the anime being similarly named. I'd agree, they do like to make the ending "sequence" take a few hours to pan out. I think my favourite was either 1 or V3, although I liked all of the VN games. I liked the cast of 1 best, but liked the class trials of V3 the most.

> Ace Attorney
I'll probably be making a start on the second game soon, but might take a little break to play something more action oriented. I didn't realise until yesterday that the later games in the series were on iOS and Android too. I could probably use an Android emulator to play them on PC, when the time comes...I don't really enjoy gaming on small screens anymore.

Knack 2 scrubbery. Check this 'expert'.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/202534-knack-2/78630226?page=1

That guy is posting trash elsewhere but I'm not responding unless he says it to me directly in the Knack 2 topic. It's going to be very difficult since I've started posting mechanics and really revealing how little he knows.

The only real options are to hurl abuse or ignore the topic and run.

Post #53
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/213-nonstop-gaming-general/78691159?jumpto=53#53

He's made a few other posts trashing Knack 2. Just brings it up out of nowhere. That's some serious butthurt over getting schooled on the mechanics.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ninja-gaiden-just-hits-different.212133/

This thread makes me want to kill myself.
#16 saying NG isn't as fast as DMC and posting the most weak ass air juggle on a brainless mob, like that is skill.
Then the response, #19, you gotta see it to believe it.

Another day another mechanically blind fanboy.

DMC faster than Ninja Gaiden? Maybe on a single target, but DEFINITELY not in group fights. Also, the footage there is modded, lmao

Also, reply #129 finally has some sanity.

hedfone wrote:https://www.resetera.com/threads/ninja-gaiden-just-hits-different.212133/

This thread makes me want to kill myself.
#16 saying NG isn't as fast as DMC and posting the most weak ass air juggle on a brainless mob, like that is skill.
Then the response, #19, you gotta see it to believe it.

That post is completely idiotic of course, but I disagree in saying that comboing a "brainless mob" doesn't take skill.
I agree that combos are not the be all end all of action games and that all type of action games (stylish, score based, efficency based etc) should be judged by their own merit without comparing everything to DMC, Bayonetta, NG or whatever.
That said this doesn't mean that comboing against a training dummy or a passive enemy doesn't take skill. Learning and doing stylish combos takes and enourmous amount of knowledge, practice and skill, you need to be familiar with the character kit, know how moves link into each other in different situation, know how the enemy will react to those moves (stagger state, gravity pull etc etc) and you need to be able to actually apply all the different techniques.
This sentiment of DMC has brainless mobs so it's easy and less skillfull than other games is something that I see a lot in the hardcore action game crowd (generally speaking), but it's something I strongly disagree with.
If it's true that NG is not inferior to DMC just because it doesn't have long combos the same applies to DMC that is not inferior to NG (or any other game) just because enemies are passive or because high level play is sometimes based on combos against training dummies. It's simply a different approach and a different design focus, and it doesn't mean one takes more or less skill than the others, it's simply a different skillset.

That said, I don't know if you were just referencing to  that particular combo or to  those type of combos in general. I just used your comment as way to start this discussion as it's something I see around sometimes. And I think it's one of the reason why DMC fans and general action games fans clash so much. As DMC fans mostly care about the freedom of expression in combos indipendently to enemy design, while action give a lot more importance to the latter and how that design works with the general combat mechanics.

The thread wasn't nearly as bad as I was expecting. Lots of fanwank for Itagaki and Ninja Gaiden in general which is rare to see these days. There's a few familiar faces that 'don't get NG' or go 'DMC mate', but you'll always have that.

I think the biggest downside of the whole NGvsDMC argument is that it is pretty one sided. Ninja Gaiden players tended to just do their own thing and enjoy everything. There were quite a few NG players that finally took the dip with DMC when the HD collection hit and while most didn't survive the transition, it was all pretty cool in the sense of "hey man, not my thing, can't get into it, but that's cool".

DMC's vocal fanbase i.e. the fanboys of the 1% great players, are just shitstirrers and it's getting to people. God of War's community turned bitter a decade ago because of all the 'why doesn't it play like DMC' comments, and slowly you can see NG players (myself included) turning sour the second DMC gets mentioned. Which is ironic since I consider 1 and 3 one of the best games in the genre. I love them.

Agree they are just a different focus. Though I will say that the focus has drastically shifted. DMC3 on DMD had very agressive enemies and the core design of DMC at first was that you looked cool. Cool in the sense that you were so good at the game that you could style on enemies that other players couldn't even defeat i.e. standing on the spike of shadows in DMC1 or just styling on a whole group of DT'd Lusts in DMC3. You could be cool because you were making a difficult game, to quote Romero, "your bitch".

And I feel the abandonment of that vision with DMC4 and 5, making the game a lot more passive and enemies a lot more docile, really made the game less cool since everyone can now just juggle things to death and the only thing that makes it cool now is how arbitrarily complicated you can make said juggle. The only fights that broke this rule were the incredibily unique Credo fight and King Cerberus which I believe a lot more people used Gold Orbs on than they cared to admit.

Lastly, and that's a personal gripe, is the notion that DMC is the template. The genre is slowly drifting towards being defined as "stylish action", while only a very small percentage of the genre is actually about being stylish. Which I've always found to be weird. This also leads to people desperately trying to make games function a way that they are not i.e. someone attempting a Shinobi or Killer is Dead combovideo which is just beyond me. Let games play to their strengths as you noted. Just wish DMC stuck to its strength.

Enfin, that's my take on it. And also gives an insight into some of my DMC article notes haha i.e. the shift of what's cool. Was saving that one

>That said, I don't know if you were just referencing to that particular combo or to those type of combos in general

It's the attitude that everything else is inferior.

>Lots of fanwank for Itagaki and Ninja Gaiden

I have found this is typically for NG Black, which they will call the greatest action game.
Then dismiss 2 as broken unfinished garbage.

It's scary but I don't even notice that anymore. Guess I've gone numb to that. I always find NG:B a hard topic, because everyone loves and defends it, but will make gripes about other games (even in the same series) that are also present there i.e. UT abuse etc. Feels inconsistent. That and NG:B is the third(!) release of that game. Imagine what NGII could've been with that amount of time and love.

Looks like those little cowards on the Knack 2 board ran for the hills once real mechanics talk came into play.

One of them is still trashing Knack 2 on other boards, and ran from mechanics discussion on the Knack 2 board. Really goes to show he was expecting an echo chamber of K2 hate, but was confronted with someone who knows his shit. I know he read my post over there and had no answer other than the mirror so is making himself feel better on other boards where he won't find opposition or facts. Very sad actually. Check out this gold.

Knack 2. It's so sub-par... you just keep going and going doing the same things over and over again. The platforming is mediocre, and the fighting is even worse.

I did go back to it. It still sucks.

This guy's thread gave me a fucking aneurysm when they talked about things that were "too fast to react to". Of all the things to complain about in that game. I was more baffled at how he expected """evidence""" that people could do it on the first try. Bitch, how the fuck is that proveable? How many people do you actually think remember dodging some attack on the first try? And then they claim that because no one can show them that they did so otherwise, they're totally right here.

I can't believe I'm actually defending God of War 2018 here, but this dude was so clearly salty about dying a bunch of times to Sigrun, that they have to claim that the attacks are totally beyond human reaction, Jesus Christ.

And lastly, what's even the problem with memorizing an attack by dying to it? It's part of learning the game.

>GoW a challenge, like Dark Souls
lol

>Because beating the Valkyries is all muscle memory, not learning on the spot, not reacting, but muscle memories.

Wtf you can see Valhalla and react .

>first try

Why do we need to block it or ANYTHING first try? If you do you, if you don't you don't. Learn in both cases.

>I can't believe I'm actually defending God of War 2018 here

Think of it more as countering idiocy.

What a weird...weird topic.

Hahaha I'm on 'warned' status now for mentioning LordRattergun.

I was told spamming mentions to antagonize a user is trolling. I've disputed the moderation for fun to see what they say.

Got suspended for harassing Lord Rattergun again. I didn't post that first part about 4chan though. Why are they blaming me for that?

2020-06-09 02:34:28: Saw this on 4chan and I wanted to share it. *spoilers*
@LordRattergun
How's that Sekiro challenge run going?

Gamefaqs sucks anyway. I was tired of it and it's no real loss. The mods are sissy degenerates.

It's weird since I never got modded despite my behavior towards Behemothblade. Note that you can be suspended and moderated for the contents of your quote. Weird how that works.

My last warning was because I kept mentioning him and I guess he cried like the little bitch he is. Then I immediately did it again and that's worthy of suspension more than someone who antagonize others daily. I just wanted to see how far I could push it.

We'll see what happens after they review it in a day or so. It says I could get warned again or banned. Don't care either way. Maybe it's about time to quit posting in that dump. Very rarely did I come across anyone worth talking to in like 10 years.

Hold on to that one message of someone getting into Chaos Legion. Remember what we fight for!

Yeah.

If I get my account back I'll message that guy and get his contact details. I guess I could make a new account if mine gets banned.

I've been placed in on a 7 day suspension. Here's what the mod said.

Please stop this bizarre campaign now.

Can you top that?
It's ok for that loser to harass people daily yet when I call him out on his attack on others and ask how his Sekiro run is going, THAT'S what qualifies as bizarre? The rumor that the mods are his actual friends could be true.

Also, I'm getting blamed for stuff I haven't done.

Users may not post any content that reveals any person's private or personally identifiable information

I never did this. Really corrupt system they have there.

I can't post right now but I'll be posting this on the DMC5 board. Strelok will LOVE this.

Bemo being sent to purgatory opened up his posting history, turns out he as banned for being openly pro-pedophilia.

Really makes you wonder.

Ps: this is why I told you guys to leave Rattergun alone, he has more expertize on trolling gamefaqs than most doctors have in their respective fields.

Woow. Damn Bemo. Wonder if he'll return with an alt.

> Rattergun
Guy has been on my ignore for a while now, same with Sterlok and some others that just kept going in circles on the DMC5 board. It was getting tiresome.

Got my account back.

Just in time for some new questions on the CL board.

I haven't watched this. Someone give me the short version.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/691087-playstation-4/78783088

I noticed some users were mocking Rattergun with that Sekiro comment on the KH3 board.

Having said that... what is it all about? Did he claim he could do/started doing a challenge run on it?

Roy was talking about difficulty and some reference to NG2. Ratter said something like "Face it, you weren't looking for a real challenge". Roy listed the details of the Sekiro challenge run he did. After that I posted to Ratter "How's that Sekiro challenge run going?" I did this every time I came across one of his posts.

He never did or wanted any challenge run yet he wanted to criticize others.

Birdman wrote:I haven't watched this. Someone give me the short version.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/691087-playstation-4/78783088

Looks interesting. I admit to being absolutely tired of the God of War discussion and just sigh whenever it drops by, but it was a good video.

Bemo is back. Oh boy.

Lock your children @ home.

Already confronted him with it, let's see how it goes.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/257528-apex-legends/78108962?page=1#58

He's mentally ill.

Rene annihilated yet again HAHAHA!

NG really hurt him huh?

I hadn't even noticed. What a chump.

He really hates my 'mechanically blind' comment. This isn't the first time he's brought it up. Must of really hit the mark.

It's insane how theses types will argue to death rather than trying to learn.

Got a new dose of stupid for you.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/637317-lollipop-chainsaw/78844345

That projectile is so easily dodged I can't explain it.

Nintendo has ruined millions of people's playthroughs of Mario games with this 3D All-Stars collection. Now there will be more people to argue with about controls for they are playing controller-impaired versions.

With PlayStation 5 and XBOX Series X, Sony and Microsoft are competing for the most boring console generation ever seen. I don't consider any of the games on them a next-gen experience.

EDIT [11/17/20]: Nintendo addresses controls in All-Star collection
https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/50552/kw/3d%20all-stars#v110

Denny running for the hills as you predicted Roy.

I've gotten this a lot over the years especially with CL and more recently Knack 2. You get this idiots who played surface level and thought they knew it all then someone (me) pops up with ridiculous mechanical knowledge and shits all over their public statement leaving them with only two options: run or get mad.

He probably only watched a few CL videos. His lack of knowledge on basics is staggering.

Anyone can see how similar V's monster mechanics are to other games like CL. You have to be trolling (or dumb as a brick with no knowledge of others) to say V is totally unique.

Then to vehemently deny any improvement suggestions is just bizarre. Like it would kill this supposed uniqueness. But sometimes the fool agrees on things that should be added not seeming to realize those things are from other games.

V is unique alright. Uniquely bad.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/241018-devil-may-cry-5/79057985?page=1

Denny has totally lost it and gone full force BehemothBlade.

He REALLY did not like being totally wrong about CL's mechanics.

He's been too trolly for my tastes recently, so I've decided to put him on ignore. He's a waste of time.

People like this want mechanics and those who promote them to disappear.

Take a look at that topic now. These guys must have played CL for 5 seconds and just mashed or something. That or just watched a few videos and somehow believed that granted them full knowledge.

Denny thinks you offer legions suggestions then they do what they want. Completely false. They have no AI to refuse inputs. They can't say no. You press triangle, they do their force attack. They can never NOT do it. It's like saying everytime you input Stinger, Dante could possibly refuse and do some other move instead.

Now Denny is running scared and trolling hard but I keep pointing him to post #19.

Now some other guy is giving his opinion and it's even more bizarre. He claims that when you summon, it's like switching stances and you lose your regular attacks in place of legions.

What...

How someone could summon and then believe they could do nothing is...special. You'd have to just stand there and not press anything. I had to re-read the post a few times to make sure I wasn't missing something.

I think at the end of this year I'll quit Gamefaqs and other places for discussion (maybe just use boards for info) and just work on my mechanics guides. I've been tired of this shit for a while now.

I just read 3 topics on Gamefaqs full of such stupid and outright lies. And you know what happened? I didn't respond.

Could've posted pages of mechanical info and video evidence and these losers would still have screamed no.

I'm tired of it. Done with the DMC5 board. The fans are as bad as the trolls. There's no discussion value or quality users there.

Will only use Gamefaqs for info here and there from now on and will continue to work on my content rather than try to convince mechanically blind trash.

On a good note, this Cambodian kid I help with homework and writing was talking to me about GoW2018 and I asked if he knew about the old ones. He didn't. I showed him some GoW3 videos and he couldn't believe his eyes.

>GFAQs full of retards
The first term they banned. The one that best covered their userbase. It wouldn't be long before other appropriate words for the administration would follow suit.

>didn't respond
If you're not able to contend with the tomfoolery (perhaps even troll back, while taking care not to be too open to reporting *as you surely will be*), that is probably best.

>would still scream no
Or just disappear to restart as if you said nothing at all.

>DMC fans
Mostly a despicable lot. The cuhrayzee style (inefficient, attention-whoring combo nerds) lot being the bulk of them followed closely behind by the actual faggots who are just in it for porn of the men fucking and being fucked by each other. Most of the 'top' names waste everyone's time putting on dumb-ass displays of fuckery (at best good for mechanical demonstrations). So poisoned is their mindset they cannot fathom not applying this ideology to everything (even beyond this franchise). Within, challenge runs often find themselves getting ranks slapped on as a default (common sense to them that it should automatically be part of whatever run).

These ass-clowns can't help themselves to the extent it isn't even 'beating the game' (win condition) without top marks. They won't even consider the actuality of 'how hard' (for what that is worth) their series is without taking off their self-imposed limiters. If generous enough to just stick to 'default' (Normal) rather than the lowest setting (to experience the game) and only doing what need be done to clear it (even setting aside cheats), how bad is it really? Even compared to GoW, one has to recall which of the two will let you just grind for orbs to buy items (consumables don't even exist for Kratos), upgrade, etc. readily. Perhaps they wish to only focus on the vanilla 'highest setting' experience? Again, what stops someone from just stocking up and blasting things with holy piss? Too far up their own ass to be sure (especially from know-nothing casuals jerking off to the lady boys doing flashy bullshit). It is why they richly deserved DmC (and deserve DmC2 without a DMC5). Spoiled with a blessed fate (as GoW proper was supplanted for yet another cash grab that actually worked *Nu-GoW*).

>swearing off discussion
Thought you reached this conclusion awhile ago.

>showed him GoWIII footage
I would be interested in knowing what you went with. A trailer for story? Gameplay? Combo shit? Challenge run? Casual playthroughs?

>I would be interested in knowing what you went with. A trailer for story? Gameplay? Combo shit? Challenge run? Casual playthroughs?

He's just a kid so nothing serious. I can't remember exactly which videos but there was general gameplay, a weapon/magic showcase, and the fight with Hercules.

He was instantly amazed at the amount of stuff you could do.

I must say that I'm surprised that any of you are still expecting hard-hitting mechanical analysis on GameFAQs. Or any gaming forum, to be honest.

> didn't respond
Generally speaking, a good idea. Most forums will get a general direction after a few months which makes it clear what its purpose will be. Sekiro's forum for instance is a extreme FromSoftware fanwank with the occasional 2 karma user spouting a topic "this game is unfair" before leaving. DMCV's board is half filled with idiots that have no idea what they are talking about, a quarter fanboys that cannot see straight and a quarter of a mixture so vile my Ignore list has been growing steadily over the last few months.

> cambodian kid
This the one who went into Chaos Legion?

@GMG

>  So poisoned is their mindset they cannot fathom not applying this ideology to everything
Which is ironic, since 'stylish' is such a minor subgenre of Action. We're talking maybe 3 to 4 games at best in a genre spanning hundreds if not thousands of games. Yet even then every game should be like DMC or, worse, the genre should be named after it i.e. "Stylish action".

@Firma

> hard hitting mechanical analysis
It's honest work haha. There's still good users there, but you really have to find them. A solid percentage of everyone here is from Gfaqs and met there so there's that. But new blood is getting more and more rare I must admit.