: >no wonder
It gets worse if you can believe it (like there existing a technique allowing ignoring of PL gaps to fully deflect the shit back to sender for free, which seems like a problem to me). While it does have utility demonstrations, it isn't like this is ever suggested as a unique quality of the attack (and GG itself is called an equivalent to begin with).
Would only make it worse. As you say, that is a reference to a meme from a dubbing mistake on an oversold line.
>must read the manga
Why not both? I don't mind leading off. You can get started at your leisure: http://mangahasu.se/dragon-ball-v6-p3288.html
>didn't watch the anime either
Quite the qualifications, but you may be surprised to learn this is also commonly the case (yet I'll have Gokeks strongly opposing the absolute canon truths laid before their feet).
>someone going by
If I'm not mistaken, I've seen you on the boards before.
Thus my making of this helpful image to mock what is hopefully a jest (posing as a scrub) in reality:
NOTE: Right-to-left should be obvious. Smaller font for things said more quietly. A fairly obvious point is made about hypocrisy without getting into the larger matter of scrub mindset. I've made others (though often leaving it to just the filename delivering the goods *as with pointing out how SKW gave Gokek passive Oozaru, but he was still only half as strong as his low-class brother despite many zenkai and lots of training with 'great masters' up to that point*).
Infamous, rather. And some of the regulars will recall my previous handle better (along with the talking points I introduced to their board culture).
>how would I feel
Nostalgic. This talk started with Raditz and a dub line.
We even know the measurement of the thing (about the approximate time frame he traveled along it *both ways*). It is that canon notation that I used to really shit on the official (non-canon) depiction of the universe globe (including Other World and the often ignored Makai, which does exist in DB's canon *Dabura is not from Hell like Devilman, but this place*, but really doesn't get covered). It reaches from the central point (check-in station) all the way to one edge (no reason to suggest the North is well away from the 'glass'). Even generously expanding it with a straightened out version of the path won't significantly alter the reality here (when doubling for circumference). Tiny.
That's a problem by itself (for another time), but first to address SSG. We have no way of knowing how much gaining 'god ki' improves someone even officially (within any continuity). There are no official guides for the matter unlike with even GT. Nothing in the material gives a clear picture on the matter (at all). As for Kid being on that level, Gokek's SS3 was one-shot by AT's cat's self-insert (Billy) and couldn't touch Mr. Whiskers (he always jobs to cats *see: Puar and Korin*). Kid as at that same level. A level 'angry' (muh buruma) Vegeta's SS2 exceeded. Putting that trivia aside, we have no way to divine the difference in the before and after as Beer Boy was lying (and AT was bullshitting for raffs) about how hard he tried (we didn't have a before and after rating of SS3 Gokek to SSG to begin with). Likewise, we know jack-shit about SSB (SSBE is also confusing as it ought to just be USS, but is somehow either SS2's official match at x2 or an absurd x20 to keep up with the meme top output of KK for Toei's telling of events *not even a thing for Toyo*). Then there is Omen/Sign (UI) and UI (MUI), which dorks deny as being more than a technique (clearly also a transformation in terms of PL and not just appearance).
NOTE: Leaving the stuff to just Saiyans is absurd (as with their being some hand-holding ritual to just gift it, but it requires goodness *why should it* and SS *again, why*).
>never mind the retcons
Including Gokek saying X new person is now the toughest, strongest, etc, yes. Even without it, he was up against Buutenks (technically present for Buuhan, but didn't so much as attempt an attack there) whom he didn't dare try to fight (unlike Kid). Buu himself (knowing himself) called this the mightiest state he's ever had (and not just concerning his new ID as 'Supes' *considered a different person from the good side or the pure original*). Again, the lad is just having a go.
Allow me to explain the matter. "Saiyajin" (or Saiya-jin"). A word for people of Saiya (jin meaning "people"). What is Saiya? Nothing more than a pun (as usual), but it should be the proper name of a city, nation, empire, planet, etc. Something other than just the people/race (otherwise they should be the Vegeta-jin *to note it, we have never seen Vegeta's father in canon nor is he depicted, but it is known the boy surpassed his father while still a youth while having been named after the planet owed to his high PL at birth*). The honorific in question by grammar rules is NOT to be used at all for an abbreviation (in this case, an initialism). It is incorrect to do so at all (and officially wrong *as another matter*). That is why it is "SS" (when Romanized, it becomes "Saiyan", but we don't say "SSN" *or SSn*. Meme complaints as with sunken ships, nazi talk, etc. have no merit. Just how it is. The origin would be weebs who needed more language lessons. Now we have kids making fallacious arguments in favor of continued use (popularity, legacy, etc.).
>so much missed potential
If allowed to work (even with the time it lasts shortening with each merger *30m down to 7.5m for the 4 way case and perhaps 3.75m for 6 way IF there were a way to make that work clean given the fused selves have one uneven partner as the oddman out to contend with, which could affect the outcome*). One way to get Tien back on his feet. Another shortcut would be Mystic for just gaining all he can be (and beyond) in terms of natural ability. This through magic, which another means being SCIENCE (magic by another name). Have Bulma stop being lazy and copy Gero's work to cybernetically enchance the man at a cellular level as with 17 and 18 (two regular human twins presumably *prior to being kidnapped*) would take him further. Allowing for Super, god ki (no good reason only Saiyans can have it *just that UI seems like a trump for all things*). Obviously, he needs King Kai to have taught him KK for going beyond whatever he gets with the all this, too. Doing all this bullshit in tandem with the multi-arms and multi-form anime-continuity fanon for Tri-Beam would let him punch insanely high above his true base 'weight' (PL) without just resorting to ECW (sealing).
Recall that AT buried Oozaru and KK both in unmarked graves (without a further word on the matter). These are canon sources of modifiers (too troubling for a man who wants to fudge things instead of being corrected for numbers not adding up). Hell, if one is being honest, you shouldn't even expect that by the point of the beam struggle with GG...that AT even factored the talk from the Raditz battle in the slightest (so mocking 50% Frieza one-handing KKx20 KMHM as nonsense given what we are given from official values and canon demonstrations of how power gaps tend to go is...just to be done for laughs). In short, he "forgot" (willfully or otherwise). As usual. Moving away from PL stuff, back to ECW. Tien already survived using it directly on a foe much stronger than him. We never see PL gaps mattering much in this matter (nor does it come off like the cost scales up, really *logically, neither should Power Ball, which is a fun thing to talk about regarding SS4 and how it should be easy to exploit early when allowed for*). Even IF it scaled up, multi-arm should be able to help a little, but multi-form can help a ton. Divide up the workload (as it isn't really a PL matter). One to do the technique, another ready to deal with a possible reversal, the third for placing the object (a catcher for the pitcher) and the last at the ready to slap on the seal. Only those DOING the move would pay the toll, so even if he was at death's door, it should be possible to cheat the system with more hax abuse.
NOTE: With GT logic, it is still stupid to allow Gokek to overtake Gohan. Only Vegeta should be able to obtain the form let alone get much from it (as Gokek already has SKW *no double-dips allowed*). Hate the misnomer even more than with SS3, frankly. The form is super pointless when it should be natural, thus Mystic would be the better choice (god ki being ass-pulled into existence at least exists as some unnatural thing to escape Gohan's domination *so long as he isn't allowed to have any*) even before UI crops up.Birdman
I suppose we're talking about Pickle Junior, but allowing for his merged identity (Nail and later Kami), yes?