New V trailer

Not sure what to say about it yet.

https://gematsu.com/2018/12/devil-may-cry-5-main-trailer-xbox-one-demo-launches-december-7
More details!

Finally, though ultimately I'm disappointed that it doesn't show how they work. I knew it probably wouldn't.

Hard to tell if they are simply summoned and let loose and the AI just does whatever, or if the player presses something to make them act a certain way or attack.

The only comparison to CL would be letting legions do as they please with no input from the player, which isn't a good idea and not how you play CL well either. The way V walks around while they're summoned really reminds of CL, because that's exactly how Sieg does it.

It doesn't look like very advanced combat judging by the video alone, so I'm hoping there's much more to it, like tons of commands for moves and behaviours.

Some other combat footage released really makes him look like a form of Sieg (even saw some comments mention him). That said he has only three summons: Griffon, Shadow (dog) and Nightmare. He can also summon swords (canes) ala Vergil, has a teleport it seems. His design notes that he weakens enemies with summons and then finishes them himself.

I enjoyed the trailer itself, but I share the same concerns as Birdman. It just looks like you sit around not doing much. It also seems like V's default speed is walking? Maybe they just did it for a stylistic flair, but that's gonna be really annoying if that's the only speed he can traverse at.

Dante, unsurprisingly, is the most interesting character. I still wish the game was just focused around him entirely, but whatever. Shame that the demo is only available for Xbox users. Does anyone here have one?

I think the official press release said that there will be a multi platform demo sometime down the line which is nice. Hopefully we can try Dante in that one.

Spotted the Chaos Legion hater.
I'll never understand these types.

My guess is they got destroyed in the past and got mad. Once they publicly trash the game, they'll plug their ears to anything that doesnt agree with their view.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/241018-devil-may-cry-5/77278044

Edit: Soundly owned. The backpedaling is delicious.

Yeah this is why I feel multiple characters aren't really a great inclusion in games like this, at least in the base game. Nero and V are fun diversions, but pale in comparison to Dante in terms of gameplay but also charm.

About an X1, I almost bought one when I heard of Black in 4k, but then I heard about the input lag and decided to stay with my X360. That said, the second NG2 gets BC I'm jumping ship.

Also: lol, that topic. Typical gamefaqs ignorance. Love how he backpedals to "sure to each their own".

I'm worried about the multiple characters as well, because it's starting to feel like a repeat of 4. In some of these recent trailers, we're seeing the same characters fight the same bosses in the same locations, like V fighting Goliath just like Nero did. Hopefully this isn't indicative of the final release, but it worries me a lot.

I played Black on an Xbox One, but I don't remember if it had input lag or not. I was using an Xbox One controller, so it's possible that I just wasn't used to it causing the game to feel slugglish. In any case I think I got to Chapter 6 before I stopped, but I had a lot of fun! I don't remember it being too bad, but it's been a few months since I played it on an Xbone.

From what I recall, you can sometimes choose which mission you do with whom. So one mission you could for instance say you want to play as V or as Dante. But it poses all sorts of issues.

About Black on the X1, it was very minor. I heard talk from BigAl and JTB that some inputs might drop time to time, but very rarely. Still, enough to persuade me not to shell out 300 bucks for a game I already own

I remember hearing that. We'll see. Maybe it's just because the environments all look the same. Hopefully this is all just early game stuff because I wouldn't want this for the whole game. It's the price of the RE engine. Works great for games that take place in a realistic setting, not so much for fantasy games. They can only get so crazy with the environment.

That was my experience with it. I know it pissed off JTB, but Bigal never switched back to the 360 version as far as I know. All his new videos are played on the Xbone.

I guess some are just more sensitive to it than others

The enviroments do feel incredibily same-y which worries me a lot. The leaker who just finished the Alpha version noted that he felt the locations were very disappointing, with only one stand out location that he didn't want to spoil. In terms of good news though, apparently there is no backtracking. That's a plus. I know that's technically a spoiler, but it's one everyone should get in my book.

I'm seeing a few comments here and there that are generally favorable towards V's gameplay, but also unfamiliarity with the concept of summoning in an action game.

To be fair, there aren't many that pull it off. CL obviously. Once you get to know the mechanics you'll realize how smooth it is. It hasn't been done better.

Folklore and Overlord are close seconds. All three do it differently though.

I hope V's isn't as basic as he looks, but then CL would look similar when you don't know how it works.

I hope all the of the moves those monsters are doing are commands you input just like Dante or Nero's moves.

We see the Shadow launch an enemy with a blade on its head (I think that's what I saw) then stab it in the air with those long range spikes. I'll be disappointed if they're just throwing these out of their own will.

What worries me is you see the bird and Shadow onscreen at once.

You saw the new extended clip too right Birdman, over on Gfaqs? It looks good, apparently you can move faster than just walking. I really hate how bad of a rap Chaos Legion has gotten simply because of that stupid sticker on the box.

Not sure yet how it will all work out though, seems like you can summon both at the same time while Nightmare is a "boss only" summon from the looks of it. I fear, and note, this isn't based on a lot, that he might be the casual character for people that just want to enjoy the story. That's a my biggest fear.

I've heard some new info.

Summons can't kill the enemy, only V can, and you input commands to do their moves. Not sure how reliable this info is.

I assume the summons can't be hurt, because it seems V can't do shit by himself.