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51God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:43 am

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"You can even run into larger enemies and slam them into walls."

How I wish we were able to batter ram minotaurs as well Hercules style. Slower, but longer duration and more dmg per hit. Would've been nice even with the nerfed collision.

Zimnas

"FOR FUCK'S SAKE! One of them couldn't even beat VH Theseus!"

Got a link? I'd bet he was trying to style on him despite having few options to do so at that stage.

"GoW proper doesn't only have sandbag enemies that simply exist to be juggled"

GoW III wraiths are pathetic in this regard. Thankfully they can be OH looped rather quickly. Strange how that middleweight can be bounced like in GoW I. Minotaurs and medusas got an upgrade why couldn't they?

Raeng

"Kids eat that shit up."

They also refer to him as the "best GoW player" (I assume no distinction between classic GoW and Nu-GoW despite there being no skill transfer). Wish they knew about Zim, but unfortunately he doesn't shill Nu-GoW or spend months making combomads to wow casuals. If he did, he definitely would have had a few thousand subs by now.

52God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:40 pm

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>BR for heavyweights
And with another toss type at the end of it for more Ring-out possibilities. Talos (both stone and bronze) should definitely be susceptible to it. I'd definitely appreciate speeding the process of taking them out. Maybe allow us to go for BR on them as they stagger (animation of reaching an HP breakpoint) with a longer duration the more breakpoints they've reached. They literally lose parts of their bodies as they take DMG, so it makes sense that they'd be lighter. Just imagine not chipping them in Poseidon's Chamber and the Labyrinth. I trust you see "it's enticing glow".

>link to the clown
Prepare your eyes. Your therapist might be driving a Bugatti after this. I know mine does. https://youtu.be/vOLisWIR_j8

>why couldn't they
Casuals can't fight them, so they gave us this JOBBER of a wraith. They even let us turn their own gimmick against them (CG their 'burrow'). Where the FUCK are my Asphodel wraiths?

>wish they knew about Zim
Much appreciated, though their kind is not big on seeing things as they are. Actual skill, combat sense, ability to come up with new, effective strategies and proper resource management doesn't matter to them. You just need to be a horseplay artist to be called "best" by the unenlightened masses.

53God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:35 pm

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>link
The fuck is he doing with those minotaurs?

54God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:50 am

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What did I just watch? Even on my first VH run, I thought that using knockback collisions to kill these Minotaurs faster was a good choice to make. On my first VH playthrough.

55God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Sat Aug 13, 2022 5:19 pm

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Birdman:
>the fuck is he doing
Making a fool of himself. It's only sad that he keeps doing the same thing over and over, hoping it will somehow work.

Wright:
>first VH playthrough was utilizing half colissions for SEM
Combo mad kids probably have no idea how colissions work. Even false OS for petrification provocation is a tall order for them.

56God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:25 pm

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I loved the part where he started a long chain from a distance to get the heavy ender only to completely wiff that ender and get hit in the face.

> other vids
Had to share this gem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwC0brBGUH4
At around 25:00 I see literal SST > roll away > SST.

GRAB MOTHERFUCKER. GRAB

Sometimes I wish I could grab YTers through their screen and play with them.

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57God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:14 pm

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The comments are terrifying.

58God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Sun Aug 14, 2022 12:04 am

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Roy:
>sometimes I wish I could grab YTers through their screen
Same here. I'd strangle those skinny little fucks.

Birdman:
>the comments
I just read that shit. I can't believe these morons think they are "rocking" GoW. I can't even FATHOM it.

I mean, seriously? "We are the only ones"? The hell makes them stand out? Talk about an overinflated ego. Thanks, birdman. I now have another reason to hate these clowns.



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59God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Sun Aug 14, 2022 9:26 am

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> comments
I dont'really see these like "we are the only ones" - where are they?

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60God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:33 am

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>where
First comment by Combo Spartan. "as of now only us three are kind of in there for GoWIII and pushing it's content"

61God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:12 am

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>Thanks, birdman. I now have another reason to hate these clowns.
What have I unleashed?

>the three of them the only ones
Let's hope so.

>comments section
"I really respect your skills in this game bro."

62God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:09 pm

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>respecting the unexisting
Funny. Only good thing about them is that they are all dumb as fuck. As such, they can be wowed even by really simple things.



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63God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:27 pm

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"Talos (both stone and bronze) should definitely be susceptible to it."

They especially can become very boring to fight with--lame tanks they are. Ascension at least made them a bit more interesting but it didn't matter considering the entry's reduced difficulty.

"They literally lose parts of their bodies as they take DMG, so it makes sense that they'd be lighter."

Beat them down and they drop a weight class only to get grabbed and slammed into the cage.

>Comments
Where have these guys been over the years to think stylish play has kept the games alive? Most of the tech was discovered by speedrunners. Players used long jump and high jump for skips not to look cool. If Hermes glide was used like RG flying then they just would have played DMC.

64God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:00 pm

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They're those types that think every action game should be DMC.

65God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Mon Aug 15, 2022 5:51 am

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Zim:
>Combo mad kids probably have no idea how colissions work.
Safe bet. Does DMC even have such a thing? But then again, even if it did, cuhhhraizy combos would probably make that irrelevant.

>Even false OS for petrification provocation is a tall order for them.
Sad!

Raeng:
>share this gem
>t0 -> roll away -> t0
No need for me to watch it, then. It's one thing seeing someone say GoW is s,s,t spam via text. No need to see that in action. Also, see post #18 from this topic:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/213-nonstop-gaming-general/80085251

Note: I don't think the link above can be accessed by people who don't have GFAQs accounts. For those who don't, this is what post #18 says:

"Certainly better climbing [referring to nuGoW having better climbing] than what was in the original game..."

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/2/9/AACT2jAADbH5.jpg

Yep. Seems like someone jobbed too hard to the blade columns.

>Birdman
>comments
Must... not... see... resist... temptation...

>as of now only us three are kind of in there for GoWIII and pushing it's content
>I really respect your skills in this game bro.

...excuse me. I need to punch a wall a few times.

>They're those types that think every action game should be DMC.
Exactly.

66God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:51 am

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>punch a wall
Then I better not tell you about Combo Spartan's GoW videos, many containing 'DMC style' in the titles.

67God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:46 pm

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Zaser:
>lame tanks
Not very interesting to fight, yes. Fate's Juggernauts in GoWII are hella tanky, as well, but colissions helped on that front. Can't say the same about GoWIII. Thinking about it, we could only RO one of them at the final encounter of Poseidon's Chamber and not the portal puzzle area with the hounds. Shame.


Birdman:
>every game should be DMC
Average DMCUCK activity. Clearly not bright enough to acknowledge GoW proper's focus on grabs, resource management, and environmentals. These are the same people saying Ninja Gaiden needs a lock-on feature.

>video titles
His 'about' page, too. What an atrocity...

Wright:
>God of Cucks has better platforming than GoW1
>points to Hades Column
I remember some scrub telling me my GoW-related opinion "means nothing" because I told another guy what's what with the platforming sequence in question. Gotta love how easy to piss off they are. To answer to all this shit in appropriate fashion:
Jobber detected, opinion rejected.

68God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:26 pm

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> DMC
Nero has knockback to a degree, you can slamdunk enemies and it creates a minor shockwave in DMC4 but no collision-damage afaik. In DMC5 I think his spin-grab/whateveryoucall it deals AoE but it's very minor. DMC3 had minor enviromentals (barrels, poledancing etc.) but no real collision stuff. It's a strangely uncommon element in action games. Even Bayonetta barely features it from what I remember.

> that topic
It's ironic since SST is by far the best normal string in NuGoW, only surpassed by cooldown-related abilities.

> blade pillar
Why does everyone hate that thing? I fell off like..3 times on my first run. It's not nearly as hard as people are claiming it to be.

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69God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Tue Aug 16, 2022 6:05 am

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Birdman:
>GoW videos
>DMC style
https://youtu.be/xhC-s6LhFpE

Zim:
>NG needs a lock-on feature
That somehow reminds me, in a way, you're lucky that you don't have a GFAQs account. Else, you may have seen comments such as God Hand being waaay inferior to DMC because you can't jump in the former. Birdman and Raeng will most likely know what I'm talking about. 5hadows and Infinity too, maybe, if they were here...

>gotta love how easy it is to piss them off
In no small part because we are ultimately telling the truth.

>Jobber detected, opinion rejected.
Indeed.

Raeng:
>strangely uncommon element in Action games
Haven't played it (yet), but God Hand does seem like it has wall collisions. If memory serves right, I think enemies reacted in some way if you sent their allies towards their location (but don't recall if did damage, maybe it did). Think something similar happened with RE4 and Kicks, but I've never seen anything die from it (just taking a few steps back) so it most likely does nothing.

Still, I wonder why it is so uncommon to have this in an Action game.

>s,s,t is by far the best normal string in nuGoW
That so? This would mean that the fans of this gam- I mean movie don't even know it all that well to begin with (and they call themselves fans), or they conveniently ignore it in hopes you wouldn't being it up. Either way, it's sad.

>Why does everyone hate that thing? I fell off like..3 times on my first run. It's not nearly as hard as people are claiming it to be.
To be honest, I did have a few issues on my N run. VH and above, though? Had less and less issues the more I had to get through it, and now I see it as a simple obstacle that... exists. I agree that people exaggerate its difficulty.

70God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:44 am

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> God Hand
Indeed has them, to an extent. Enemies can be used as 'projectiles', dealing either stagger or knockback/down+damage. You need to launch enemies and then use an attack with high knockback to initiate a projectile. Funnily enough (and brilliantly so) counterhits trigger this as well. It's one of the few games that comes to mind that actually uses counterhits outside of multiplayer games. Brilliant concept. For example HighStepKick is a regular highkick, nothing too special. But if it counterhits it becomes a projectilelauncher, sending enemies flying into walls.

> collision
Ninja Gaiden has it by the way, with you dealing (and receiving) bonus damage if thrown to a wall. NGII ups this by having throws done to a wall result in an instant limb-loss.

That said in the grand scheme of things, GoW still reigns supreme in this aspect to me. Only Zone of the Enders 2 comes close in how you can use enemies as shields in that game, as projectiles, melee weapons and such.

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71God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:14 am

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God Hand: On top of what Raeng said, you are also right about enemies reacting when their allies are being towards their location.

Usually when enemies will take a few steps back it's after another enemy hit them (without the full knockdown effect) and they will lose a tiny bit of health and will also be staggered for a short while, which is very beneficial for crowd control and repositioning Gene. It's also possible that enemies can take a few steps back without being staggered or losing any health, but I'll have to check this.

In Viewtiful Joe using enemies as projectiles is one of the main mechanics, and it also has wall collisions. If you are hitting bombs in slowmo and they hit enemies, the explosion will last longer as long as you are still in slowmo, dealing more damage to the enemy (at the risk of draining your VFX meter). You can also combine this with zoom-in for extra damage.

Ninja Gaiden: Aside from wall throws, guillotine throws can also be used to stagger other enemies (without dealing damage at all IIRC), which can be easily noticeable in NG2 when you are being surrounded by large crowds of enemies.

72God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Tue Aug 16, 2022 11:29 am

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Oh fuck we're talking the good shit.

>because you can't jump in the former
I remember this one guy always saying that. He even referred to GH as a 2D game because of it.

>but God Hand does seem like it has wall collisions
Walls are brutal in GH.

>It's one of the few games that comes to mind that actually uses counterhits
Chaos Legion uses them in the same way GH does. They work like a lot of fighting games. Not sure of any others outside these, at least none I can remember right now.

>ZoE2
You can hit them into walls/ground right? It's been ages but I swear I used the downward strike to smash an enemy into the ground.

>enemies as projectiles
Delicious.
In Chaos Legion if you hit enemies with attacks that cause knockback and fire, they will collide with others.

73God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:04 pm

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> VJ
Totally forgot about this, but it's super major in there indeed. The helicopter fight is brutal without it, practically forcing you to get used to it or at least know it's there.

> ZoE2
You can use downwards, forwards and upwards slashes to slam enemies into specific directions that is correct.

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74God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:53 am

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Raeng:
>enemies can be used as projectiles
Yeah, I've seen a couple of videos where people launch enemies and then use a flying kick that freezes time for a moment and sends mobs flying into walls (and allies as well, if they're in the way).

>cointer hits trigger this as well
Ah, so that's what happens when people use that against Axel for a couple of times (but not all the time *always wondered why, but think I've got my answer now*).

>NG has it
>2 in particular guarantees delimbs
Neat.

>GoW still reigns supreme in that aspect
Yeah, that's a huge reason as for why I've been hooked for this long (haven't really played anything else).

GN1:
>enemies losing health if you send an enemy their way
>which opens up other possibilities such as repositioning and crowd control
Great, glad that the game has collisions in some capacity, then.

>VJ
Ah, yes, I also forgot this was a thing in that game. Think the tutorial even explains it.

Birdman:
How's GoWIII so far, for you?

>calling GH a 2D game
Right, how could I forget this.

>CL also has these
This game has now risen up in my list of must try games (among the priority titles).

75God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:50 am

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"Thinking about it, we could only RO one of them at the final encounter of Poseidon's Chamber and not the portal puzzle area with the hound."

It's possible to make them fall through the bridge using this exploit by Findlestick: https://youtu.be/0u_gdNPFTio?t=284
Thankfully CoH archers is a lvl 1 soul, so this can be done in NUR+.

76God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:05 am

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> azel
What they use is the anti-air version, if you put a character in the air, hits count as counterhits. So you can sort of abuse this.

> slowmokick
Yeah that's the universal move, you always have that one, it's also i.framed afaik. But you can only do it when there's an aerial opponent around.

> NG2 delimb throw
It's such a little change to an existing move, but it completely flips the script. Fantastic addition though a tad busted at times.

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77God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:03 am

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I think the slowmo kick in God Hand and the launch move (Shoryuken) aren't actually i-framed or at least not fully i-framed.

78God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:18 pm

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Pretty sure you cannot ever be knocked out of them, mid-animation or even during startup, at least it's never happened to me.

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79God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Thu Aug 18, 2022 7:48 am

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>VJ
It was a while ago but I'm sure one time I was fighting the helicopter on that stage with the stairs and when it did its diagonal shots, a kicked a guy up and he collided with the bullet which sent the bullet back.

80God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Thu Aug 18, 2022 8:58 am

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Yes if you punch or kick an enemy in slowmo and they collide with a bullet, the bullet will be sent back towards the helicopter together with the enemy.

81God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Sat Aug 20, 2022 4:18 am

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Good.

It was early this year I saw that. But I was unsure if it actually happened.

82God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Sat Aug 20, 2022 8:20 pm

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Zaser:
>link to Bronze Talos RO
Excellent. Will put it to work in the upcoming GoWIII run.

83God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:43 pm

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TheFirmament1 wrote:"Combo" is a dirty word around these parts, but can anyone tell me if there are any good tips in general for this guide, even outside the context of combos?


EDIT: Appears that Ximnas appeared in the comments of this video, and got into a debate with the uploader. Guide certainly doesn't seem to be aimed at people focused on efficiency in these games. Definitely shows the strengths of original God of War trilogy's combat system though, it works really well regardless of whether you approach it from a combo mad, or efficiency angle. Though I'm aware of what angle is preferred here.

Looks like something happened in-between then and now, because I'm looking at this dude's channel, and he's featuring Zimnas in some of his videos, and doing challenge runs like no upgrades, and no blocking/dodging.

84God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:02 pm

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He is being taught the ways of the vets. Such is the gift of acceptance.

85God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:22 pm

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>such is the gift of acceptance
And the fact that this happened at all is a quite rare occurrence.

86God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:10 am

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A thing of beauty, yes. Helped get Zim (and myself) 'Community' tab only for it to seemingly be given out like candy for no reason (Wright has it), but not for everyone (Raeng didn't get it).

87God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:29 am

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man the new God of War games are shit. i really miss when God of War was all about stylish combos instead of this "no fun allowed" "efficiency" bullshit where you play as boring and cheap as possible.



>God of War 3 Combo Mad Combat Guide

what a sick guide, can't wait to implement all this cuhrayzee shit into my gameplay

88God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Fri Dec 09, 2022 3:03 pm

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Always love seeing a BeeG video.

I had III on Ps3, ended up swapping it for Ascension with a friend. Seems he got the better deal. Also, the multiplayer needed an online pass I didn't pay for. I loved III enough to finish it 3 times and plat it. Will get into 1 and 2 at my earliest convenience.

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>III on Ps3, ended up swapping it for Ascension with a friend

he made off like a bandit, you should take it back from him

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>faffing about with punching bags is fun
Blow-up dolls might prove a hit, too. They would do well to juggle some balls and hit one-liners as they partake in the popping of a sex balloon.

91God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Thu May 25, 2023 1:22 am

Omar73874928271728

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Probably gonna be a hottake, but zesty doesn’t follow me in twitter anymore so I am free to go ham, god of war 3 enemy’s are shallow and one of the worse in the series. Why you ask? Many are shallow and a non threat and one note. The wraiths? Just Os spam their ass. Sirens? Same story. Minotaurs are good but could be a lot better, should have made it so that if we use the bow full charge it gets rid of their armor but gives their running attack UB. Shield dudes have poorly telegraphed attacks(not that bad, since it ain’t the worse thing ever but can be annoying in box 6 where enemy’s attack offscreen), golden dudes are cool, but become pretty boring later on even with shockwave attack which should be a guard break. The archers are a total non threat but can be used in some creative encounters. The centaur is meh, his interaction with enemy’s while cool is wasted imo by his charge attack requiring a mini game which also lessens the incentive to dodge him and make him ram into a wall. The more “complex” version is nothing to write home about. Honestly einherjar and legionare captains are better which gow 3 has none like that. Atleast OS spamming in 1 and 2 wasn’t that a usable and if anything, rare since you had to have right positioning and aiming to make it fully work due to collision damage. In 3, nah just grab a wraith and OS smash her to death. I also feel like this is a issue since there isn’t much enemy but reactions in 3 compared to previous entry’s. Petrification could have really fixed this IMO. What makes this even worse is how enemy’s in 3 don’t really interact that much with each other as they should. Now, I know what your saying, chimeras. They also are ass. Joking of course, don’t have much to say except they are cool. The encounter with the pots is great. But trust me, they are not that good to only appear 2 times in the game. Should have had a box which is dedicated to chimera. Maybe accompanied by Minotaurs to keep pressure, or maybe have that happen when you get to stage 2. Maybe each stage spawns a different enemy and if you don’t kill those enemy’s prior, they will still be there. Wow, what wasted potential it was to not have something like that. Although box 6 works into this idea. I guess scale changes a game. The dogs are cool, good pressure tool and have chemistry with the heavy enemy’s like talos. The encounter after hades with them is especially good and the one in Olympia with them. Really good encounters there. Honestly the dogs make Olympus legionaries that much more interesting to fight. The talos are ok. A general worse version of FJ but fine in their own way. In general 3 was a pretty big downgrade from 2. Heck 2018 may have a better enemy roster.

92God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Thu May 25, 2023 1:33 am

Omar73874928271728

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Maybe too harsh on 3 mainly with the 2018 comment. I mean, is it that bad? I definitely prefer god of war 1 and 2 over it.

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The only game with a worse enemy roster than 2018 is ZORK.

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GodModeGOD

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>Zesty
>Twitter
I only overheard some of it in the "chill" stream. I forget the details. Was busy answering chat (had to even watch the stream properly). Something about Nu-GoW, I believe. Raggy, maybe. Busy with Zig, but wanted to do a quick peek here. I see he seems to have joined (yet not TUGOWU just yet). Forum novice and all. Generational thing, I'm sure.

95God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Sat Jun 03, 2023 1:54 am

ZestyTaf

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>Tiwtter
Remember the whole talk i made about Ragnarok not being a GoW game? Man threw shots in his 'critical view' in a tiwtter thread. Something like "I'm not going to bs you guys with rAgNaRoK iS nOt GoD oF wAr".

I unfollowed him, as he's also dissing GoW3 nonstop as some type of 'revenge porn' constantly, also downplaying some other aspects about GoW proper based on gameplays of vets like me and Xristos.

Anyways, the unfollowing led to him talking about my review... not being a retrospective. A goddamn review. Mind you, i touched on things not a single other reviewer touches on. Review shit should be for reviews, and retrospective shit should be left for retrospectives, yet i still kept it a buck and explained in-depth shit about the combat no one else talks about in a review (sometimes, not even in a retrospective).

Man starts 'constructively' criticizing my review for not explaining the RPG stuff enough. I did talk about the RPG stuff lightly, and it's not like it is the most complex thing to define. It's major knowledge that it is built upon the skeleton GoW4 set. It's literally the same system, except with less Enchantments (a thing i touched on as a joke in the video. I think it was a short segment where i said "Not whatever this fucking shit is" while i was viewing the Enchantments list in GoW4 **fucking horrendous amount that got reduced in Ragnarok**).

I have made it clear many times to him and a bunch of other pretenders, critiquing Ragnarok is one thing, critiquing Ragnarok as a GoW is a whole other thing. I've started to somewhat slow down with my argument of "It's not GoW", but it still has merits, atleast to some extent (GoW4 NUR+ is happening tomorrow).

I don't want to dive deeper into his other 'funny' schemes of 'testing me' by asking dumb questions or straight up hating in alt accounts (Williams James). Questions for nothing but validation, and for what?
Questions that you can use the answers for against me? I'm sure that's working, bro. Keep up. I don't wanna begin with him putting words into my mouth countless times (with both accounts **or hell, however many fucking accounts he has**).

The whole GoW3 situation applies to other shit as well. I'm not willing to dive that deep into his "critique" of GoW3 above, but all these arguments are written down after observing others play. You would know that the Wraiths are not offered to you alone in encounters. They're in groups, or piled up with other enemies to make things tough. He's driving this 'narrative' that GoW3 sucks, in a very unusual way. That's why i see it as revenge porn. What's next? Gonna say Hades Minotaurs are EZ AF NO CAP becuz of how good WE deal with them? Somebody remind this man to actually do runs and come out of them efficiently rather than
*watch pro player destroy an encounter*
"These enemies are all bad. Oh my gosh"

It's fine to critique things, but atleast try to play the game in challenging ways before trying to water down a game that most vets in the action game circle consider to be a masterpiece.

This also doesn't just go for Wraiths, he's doing it for every single enemy, with possibly and hardly ONLY NUR+ knowledge in mind. Nuff said.

https://www.youtube.com/@ExtremeGameplays1

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Omar73874928271728

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>Criticizing gow proper based off your gameplay
What………….. the only gow proper game I ever critiqued was 3, and even then am I really wrong? I have been critiquing it for a huge while, even before that, heck even talked with it with GMG on his YouTube channel.

>Rpg elements
The reason I brought it up was because it’s one of the female’s BIGGEST issues. And not enough people talk about it I feel like, which is why I brought that up(also, why do you still think that tiwtter thread I made was based off of you?!?!?!?!?!???? Because I quoted you? You do know people have been saying that shit since forever right?!?!?!???!??!?!?!!??!? Aka gow 4. I guess had some of your thoughts in mind, but I really only recall talking about the rpg mechanics and such, not much else). And back to rpg elements, one thing the developers talk about a lot was enemy hit reactions, which goes out the fucking window when a enemy is even one level ahead of you, and I feel like people saying”me don’t like rpg elements!” Don’t go that much deeper about it, which imo makes the developers just ignore it. Since it comes across as it not being what they want per se which gives them the impression that they can keep on doing that instead of taking advice of how to improve it(raeng came up with a genius way to implement it actually, I even talked about it without referencing him).

>every enemy
???????? How so? Only other enemy I talked about was beast lord I think, and I even said(multiple times btw) that they are FANTASTIC enemy types. Even defended them against some vets. Also, don’t act like I don’t critique raggy enemy’s at all. Heck, I’d say I do that more than gow proper enemy’s. I literally call an entire enemy faction pointless, which is something I don’t do at all with gow proper. And even then, are my critiques not valid? Being able to OS spam a beast lord to death ain’t something that should be atleast a bit addressed? It makes them a total joke, and heck even bigvee critiques that aspect of them alot, yet now I’m in the wrong and am just hating for the sake of it? I even praised the Minotaur in 3 btw. Sure, I think he could be better, and give suggestions for it but when has that ever been a bad thing? I do it for raggy with many enemy’s yet when I talk about 3 I cross the line?!?!?!? I guess infinete OS gow 1 enemy’s in air? But again, I even say for some enemy’s in gow 1 I don’t think it’s too bad(gorgons and such due to their ability to use petrification to kill you instantly). Like really, should the HEAVIEST Minotaur variant, be exploitable to air OS spam? It’s not the worst thing in the world(due to other options that grant different rewards such as petrification, again). Also, I never claimed I was the only one who “knew” raggy. When I said that, I was talking casuals and not you, heck you know a good chunk of raggy tech, and I’m not sure if I’d call myself the best player in the world like…. At all haha. There is 7 billion people ain’t there? Also, I beat all of the games in VH, multiple times btw, even started a gow 2 NUR+ at my apartment(couldn’t Finnish due to traveling). If I were to critique the games based on what challenge runners do, I would critique boundary exploits, gow ascension Plume spam, being able to OS spam sirens in gow 3, etc. I would be pulling a willy on everyone(also, how am I willy? I only made that comment as a joke in the GoS stream, and even then if I were it would be obviously a troll account). Also, I never said wraiths sucked, I thought they were fine but thought OS spam was far too powerful and a easy way to get rid of them. As well as feeling one more in certain areas like using CH to get them out of barrel which while not bad, could be a lot more interesting if there was another equally effective option(imagine if we could send them on fire, and when burrowing they set other enemy’s on fire that they are next to on fire also, and make a unique decision that being, should I go the safe route and use CG, or use a risky yet high rewarding inferno shot, of course I think it would take a bit to make it better, but imagine if it’s fine right?!?!?!!?). Also, I praise gow 3 a lot, I even said on twitter it has arguably the best encounters in the series. There are a lot of great ones. And again, 3 also has some great enemy’s I think(the dogs, Minotaurs armored, the golden dudes who grew on me,etc). It’s a good enemy roster I think. Sure, I was a bit too critical on it, but that was my feelings then, I just think 3 could be a lot better. Although reading it back now I definitely see what you mean, if I could go back in time I would definitely word it a very differently. But we all make mistakes, and we grow from it. Although reading it again, I defiantly was wayyyy too harsh in it. And am pretty ashamed of myself for it now. In general, I don’t want this to become a argument, and I just want things like that to be left behind for good. Since I am very ashamed of it as well. I hope you can understand.

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Omar73874928271728

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Again, don’t want to start chaos in this forum, since I love it a lot and have a blast with it since it feels like I talk with reasonable and kind, people on the topic of combat design and games strategy’s. Heck, nobody ever reads my raggy tips but I still feel good about it since it feels like I’m sharing my knowledge to other people, a bit like a teacher if you say.

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Omar73874928271728

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Also for the gotcha questions, I agree, but I keep asking questions to keep my brain pumped due to my adhd syndromes. But hey, atleast you don’t have to worry about that anymore.

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GodModeGOD

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Even on the second pass I was more paying attention to the gameplay. I've basically got the gist. The matter is no business of mine.

100God of War 3 general discussion  - Page 2 Empty Re: God of War 3 general discussion Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:54 am

Zimnas

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What on earth happened here?

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