God of War 3 general discussion

Just some cool battles between me and zest, it’s behind us now.

Who was a more hype boss, SA(senator Armstrong) or zeus from gow 3?

^Both are SMALL TIME. Hotel knows what's up.

Is it possible to pull enemy’s to you outside of NC? I’m thinking of something like gow 2018s Hyperion spear(badass name, btw).

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> gow3 Zeus Or Senator Armstrong

- Hype

Senator Armstrong was introduced near the end of the game, he had no build up or hype around him, until he was just there.
But despite that, he was still a fun challenging boss and an intresting character with the little screentime he had, so that tells you something
Zeus however was hyped from gow2's begining all the way to gow3's ending, and he delivered.
Its obvious that the "hype" aspects goes to zeus.

- Character/Design

Armstrong look like your usuel senator except his jacked, nothing out of the ordinary.
His character however is nothing ordinary ; he is fun, charming, crazy but with a vision
Again for a character to show up at the last hour of the game and instantly hook you up means he is something special.
As for zeus he looks neat, the hair/beard and all of that, his character however is your typical A$$hole greek god, not even near Ares' level of character depth. But he's not boring to say, just...there.

- Fun Factor/Set Pieces

This one is subjectibe territory, i overall enjoy MGR's set pieces over GOW3's, as for the fights in question, armstrong's 1st phase is more fun looking than anything Zeus offers.

- Story/Dialogue

Zeus is a pay off of two games meanwhile armstrong is just at the last moment like i said many times, therefore zeus's beating is way more impactful than armstrong who you need to re-do that fight And play the Sam DLC in order to understand more about him and get wtf is he saying.
And even then, the context for zeus' last A$$ Whoping is way better and bigger than the senator

- difficulty

Could be personal, but armstrong is waaay harder than zeus
Im specifically talking about the last phase of both fights
Zeus as GMG puts it is small Time, can be overwhelming at times with his clones but not the hardest challenge you'll face in gow3 (cerberus breeder is way more harder and has more things going for it than zeus)
Senator on the other is a step up in difficulty, when played properly ofc (No healing item usage)
And on a No Upgrade Run it gets even harder

- mechanics

Zeus' fight is more complex and fun to do, armstrong lean into the basic side of thing
1st phase is eye candy with minimal hardship, 2nd phase is hard but simple
All 3 Fights of zeus have something different going for them, 1st phase espacially is my fav since it has that 2D PoV, 2nd phase is survival and 3rd phase is clone and health management which is way more impressive than armstrong's hit and dodge fight

- music

Metal head therefore im baised therefore armstong's it has to be this way, besides Zeus' Wrath/Phoneix Rising > Brother Of Blood.

- conclusion

Armstrong 3
Zeus 3
One is better than the other in some aspects, but they are ultimatly both fun experiences just with different strong points.

>hype goes to zeus
You could argue it goes to senator Armstrong imo. Sure, he was introduced like, 100090 hours later in the game BUT, that’s what makes him hype. He was unexpected and hearing him say all of these things about the American government and such, is not only hype due to the cool factors but also how it’s about our real world so we can at least semi agree and get more immersed(I know it sounds weird for someone who criticizes walky talkys to say this but immersion does matter a ton for shit like this). Zeus on the other hand was more predictable and I’m gonna be honest, safe. Or atleast compared to Armstrong. And armstrong due to that feels more unique whereas zeus we already fought him in 2 as the final boss, and he is the final boss again. Spectacle wise, armstrong wins. I personally prefer the fight choreography, scale and location you fight in. Also in general I’m gonna be honest, I don’t like how zeus in god of war 3 sounds. He sounds more like a pussy than he did in 2. The music is also better in armstrong, feels more personal and it being in English helps the subtle storytelling in the song. Especially if you interpret it as raiders song.

>mechanically
Been a while since I’ve played revengance(currently am playing ng2) so can’t comment. Zeus was pretty good in 3 mechanically. Not the best thing ever but he is fun. His gimmick in gaias heart was a cool multitasking thing that you can even use to your advantage and the clones were cool. Although he lacked move variety and the clarity was not great imo(clones can make things confusing). I think they should have made it so that he has the blade of Olympus and makes clones he commands with said blade.

>character
Zeus in 3 was shallow yeah. He had some depth in 2 tho. Mainly you can somewhat sympathize with him but then 3 wanted to make zeus “SO COOL!!!!!!” So he lost that depth.

Went back to do a NUR+ for 3(started yesterday night and am now near the end today). Safe to say I really underestimated 3. Having a TON of fun. Loving the grab selection much more now, mainly the throwing due to it knocking back some heavy’s.
Wall splat is also really fun in 3 to mess around with, even allows infinetes on Minotaurs(as showcased in zesty/xristo/other people’s videos). Also been using more bow of Apollo lately, and it is so fucking versatile it’s insane, especially the charged shot to set enemy’s on fire. CoH are also warming up on me now(mainly due to its great magic attack with a Cerberus). Wish that the centaurs were used more though, as well as bringing back riders from 2(with an Olympian look of course**as well as being harder to get down from their bois**). Nemean cestus are still a bit meh to me, but that’s fine I guess. Also appreciate how short it is.

Finished the run. Zeus was a pretty easy final boss, but whatever. Don’t play god of war for the bosses anyways. I’m sure NGR+ would make him much harder.

>not played for bosses
Casuals definitely do.  They want the spectacle.  Regular mobs can't do that scripted shit.

>mobs can’t do that
Only in big wars usually.

>big wars
Got some standout cases to denote?

God of war 2 comes to mind with the opener with the rhodan soldiers being pretty much scripted enemy’s.

>Rhodians
Ah, you mean stuff like their unusual spawn rules (from walls or ceilings versus just being there already or appearing through the floor as is more typical), holding the door (only in one spot rather than a thing they try elsewhere), cowering as Colossus slays them (then there is the attack where he tosses them at us), etc. Introductions have more of that type of thing than other parts in the game, typically. Part of the 'hook' to catch people at the start.