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1Kingdom Hearts 2 Empty Kingdom Hearts 2 on Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:11 pm

Infinity_Divide

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As far as I can tell this doesn’t have a topic, which really surprises me. Almost done with a Crit run and this game is just incredible, really one of the greats. Thoughts on this one?

2Kingdom Hearts 2 Empty Re: Kingdom Hearts 2 on Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:44 pm

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It's that one title that's been on my backlog for ages, but I'm too intimidated by it as well. Because I know how I am, I want to play at least KH1 first. And they are both pretty lengthy games I assume?

I think there was some talk of KH2 in the JRPG Action topic.

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3Kingdom Hearts 2 Empty Re: Kingdom Hearts 2 on Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:49 pm

Infinity_Divide

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I’m near the end of KH2 with about 18 hours, I’ve skipped all cutscenes and any side stuff though. I believe KH1 is about as long.

4Kingdom Hearts 2 Empty Re: Kingdom Hearts 2 on Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:10 am

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I had fun with the original version. I haven't played the Final Mix though.

5Kingdom Hearts 2 Empty Re: Kingdom Hearts 2 on Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:33 am

Phoenix Wright

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Glad you're having fun with it! That game is my favorite (at the moment, since I haven't played other Action games yet). I'll post what I think about the game in more detail tomorrow, since it's getting a bit late. I will say one thing though, when you finish the game, be sure to check the side stuff, specifically the optional bosses, because they're pretty much the highlight of the game. That, along with Critical Mode and Lv 1 Crit to a greater extent, is what makes the combat shine.

@Royta/Raeng wrote:It's that one title that's been on my backlog for ages, but I'm too intimidated by it as well. Because I know how I am, I want to play at least KH1 first. And they are both pretty lengthy games I assume?

I think there was some talk of KH2 in the JRPG Action topic.
I'm not sure if this was changed on the PS4 version, but you can't skip cutscenes in KH1 on the PS2 version. I'd say KH1 takes a bit more to beat than KH2, because of what I said, and the level design (you need to solve puzzles in order to progress and some of the worlds can feel like a maze sometimes. It took me a long time to beat Monstro alone, but then again, I was very young back then). KH2 got rid of that completely, except for the Cavern of Remembrance, which isn't part of the main campaign but there are some floating orbs that kinda spell out what you need in order to progress (but you can still get through it with just base Sora alone, if you maxed out the growth abilities).

That said, KH1FM is pretty good too, and is definitely worth a try.

@Nadster wrote:I had fun with the original version. I haven't played the Final Mix though.
Oh man, if you had fun with the original, then Final Mix is a must play. That's if you have the time to play it though. Hopefully you get to try it someday.

6Kingdom Hearts 2 Empty Re: Kingdom Hearts 2 on Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:44 pm

Infinity_Divide

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>optional content and LV1 crit
For sure, going to get into them as soon as I finish my run.

>KH1 takes a bit longer
You’re probably right, in 2 you can skip cutscenes and mostly just go in a straight line through most of the worlds. I got lost a few times during my last KH1 run.

>Final Mix
Yeah if you like vanilla KH2 you definitely need to give FM a go if you have the time. I can’t believe how many amazing games in the genre we got in such a short span of time(KH2, God Hand, GoW2, NG2 all came out within a year and a half of each other).

7Kingdom Hearts 2 Empty Re: Kingdom Hearts 2 on Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:31 am

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As I've stated before, I have never done a Lv 1 playthrough... so as soon as you finish a world, you'll probably have more knowledge about the game than me, heh.

So... I'll post some quick thoughts about KH2. As far as mechanics are concerned, I liked that they allowed you to chain magic into your combo string, and they also have finisher variants as well this time around. So let's say, you're doing a combo, but you notice another enemy about to approach/attack you. You can either chain Reflect or Fire into your current string, depending on if the enemy is about to attack you or just approach you, respectively. And you can have more than 1 finisher in a combo string (in vanilla Critical, you can have up to 4 IIRC, and on Lv 1 playthroughs you can have up to 3 if you equip all Finishing Pluses and Rumbling Rose, but without that keyblade, you'd only have access to 3 and 2 respectively, depending on the mode), resulting in even more possibilities. Two very famous ways to maximize Magnet's damage potential to regular enemies is to either use Finishing Leap to hit the enemies while also enabling you to use aerial combos, so you can hit them a few times to trigger Magnet's extra hits, or you can just cast Magnet + Thunder for a more simple and effective way to get rid of enemies, but it comes with a cost (MP, possibly items as well, or if you don't want to worry about MP at all; Drive bars, via summoning Stitch).

Just like in KH1, every spell is useful in this game (even moreso than KH1, in some cases). Every selectable Drive Form sans Valor and Limit changes them in some way. Some variants are better to use than others in certain scenarios, but none of them become obsolete at any point in the game. Not only the spells are viable, pretty much every mechanic (Summons/Limits/Drives/Keyblades, etc.) other than Valor Form (and possibly chicken little, but I didn't get to test him that much) is useful in some way, even base Sora.

In short, you can find a lot of utility in this game. It all depends on your playstyle. Once again, the game is very open ended and almost everything is viable.

Well, that's all I've got to add. I wanted to add my thoughts on the post-game bosses too, but it would be better if you see how they work yourself. I don't have anywhere near as much knowledge on the game as someone like SBK does (as I said, I've yet to start my very first Lv 1 run) but I think that covers a small part on what makes this game's battle system so engaging and fun to explore.

8Kingdom Hearts 2 Empty Re: Kingdom Hearts 2 on Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:15 pm

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Any tips on how to beat Assault Riders? I just got to Land of the Dragons yesterday.

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