One Try Meta

aka 'First Try Meta'

New type of run. This run consists of a first time player attempting to beat the game without ever seeing 'Game Over'. No resetting (rage-quit) or guidebooks (or any outside tips) allowed.

Who can beat games without saying they ever died or continued? Any games that you all played that in retrospect were relatively easy that would have ended this run?

What do you all think of accomplishing this run by way of 'Easy Mode'? Chaining games. Creating a deathless streak going from game to game.

I don't think I've ever had this in any game I ever touched because I'm way too keen on experimenting and derping around. I died nearly 30 times against the first zombie in The Evil Within II because I was just having too much fun exploring how the combat worked.

If you're going to attempt this I'd highly recommend avoiding OHKO games like platformers. Come to think of it I don't think I died a single time on my first DOOM run but I was playing on Normal. Perhaps a recent Zelda game? Skyward Sword was piss easy as I recall.

>Who can beat games without saying they ever died or continued?

I generally try not to die when I play a game first time because that just makes sense but sometimes, as Roy says, you want to experiment and taking damage/dying is part of that.

I tend to leave that stuff until later than the first enemy but sometimes I'll still do it. Really depends on the game.

I don't wish to criticise anybody for how they like to play their games, but I couldn't see myself going for this. Ideally I'd never die in a game, but I'm not going to pressure myself to avoid failure in a game I'm still learning to play. I think if I didn't die during my first playthrough I'd be concerned about the level of challenge a game is offering (I always start on Normal, or higher if I'm feeling brave).

vert1 wrote:Who can beat games without saying they ever died or continued?

I hold that as a meta-myth.
The genius player. The Asperger who could. If you can dream it you can do it. The one we all bend our knee to. The derp savior.  

 Nah to all that.

Royta/Raeng wrote:I don't think I've ever had this in any game I ever touched because I'm way too keen on experimenting and derping around. I died nearly 30 times against the first zombie in The Evil Within II because I was just having too much fun exploring how the combat worked.

Huh. That's a much different mindset to start out a horror game in then I'd expect. I beat Balloon Kid [GB] in an extraordinary way on my second real attempt: I was doing well until the final level + boss where I dwindled away 20 lives turning the run into a last life situation. This had a big impact on me.

Perhaps a recent Zelda game? Skyward Sword was piss easy as I recall.

That could work. You see I was thinking over your comments in the Metroid: Other M thread about how easy the game is and was thinking about that major moment I had with Balloon Kid. What if someone played the game in a true survival horror fashion to beat on the first try? To refuse to continue. I thought about the probability of success that person would have. Could it be done? Is there anyone who could do this without being exposed to spoilers (or critical information)?

I also thought about Bayonetta, how with Automatic Mode enabled it would be a sure thing for this run, but then I remembered the QTEs. I'm not sure now...

Birdman wrote:>Who can beat games without saying they ever died or continued?

I generally try not to die when I play a game first time because that just makes sense but sometimes, as Roy says, you want to experiment and taking damage/dying is part of that.

Reasonable. Any recent examples? For myself, I distinctly remember the payoff of the absurdity of directly setting off sticky grenades in Shadows of the Damned.

Gregorinho wrote:I don't wish to criticise anybody for how they like to play their games, but I couldn't see myself going for this. Ideally I'd never die in a game, but I'm not going to pressure myself to avoid failure in a game I'm still learning to play. I think if I didn't die during my first playthrough I'd be concerned about the level of challenge a game is offering (I always start on Normal, or higher if I'm feeling brave).

Yeah, it is very stressful doing this. I am not sure how many games or how many types of games to do this for. I was thinking it would be more satisfying beating a lesser known, less quality game with the feeling of not dying once than it would be to play it through normally.

Zenyn wrote:

vert1 wrote:Who can beat games without saying they ever died or continued?

I hold that as a meta-myth.
The genius player. The Asperger who could. If you can dream it you can do it. The one we all bend our knee to. The derp savior.  

 Nah to all that.

Haha.

>Reasonable. Any recent examples?

I've mainly been playing RPGs where generally the tech is in builds and set ups, none that require purposely taking damage.

>aspergers
They generally have poor motor skills/coordination so I doubt it. Autism maybe.

I wouldn't want to purposely attempt this as a challenge though. I don't see dying in a game as a real loss. I try to avoid it because that just makes sense. Every death and bit of damage is a learning experience and I go into it with that mindset.

On action games that have mission select I'll usually replay earlier missions, sometimes the first over and over. I remember doing that with DMC3 learning how the enemies functioned and took lots of hits practicing.

I know for a fact I didn't die on my first playthrough of fable 2. There was an achievement I believe.

I think QTEs will really be the bane of some. I don't think I ever died in a Yakuza game though outside of Kiwami and Yakuza 3, the rest are so easy, especially with all the healing abilities you have.

This topic was made to discuss Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter. And Dead Rising - Did anyone beat the maniacs on their first attempt? I really don't know how you could.

>And Dead Rising - Did anyone beat the maniacs on their first attempt? I really don't know how you could.

Like without any leveling up, and just running into them by accident?

Yes, the surprise of running into them (specifically, the guys in the jeep). First playthrough, first encounter; to be able to encounter them and not die, a run without using a continue.

I didn't. I know I killed at least two, from memory, but didn't even encounter most of them.

I don't think it's impossible though. Just unlikely you'll even find them all and at least one of them not killing you. The jeep guys can destroy you fast.