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51Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:36 pm

Royta/Raeng

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Ah! It was the way it was written that I thought "is he talking about me...or himself, I don't know anymore". Your writingstyle tends to be a tad hard to follow at times, that's why I asked!

And yeah, ASBAR (or, asbak as we call it here, which is Dutch for "ashtray) is hilarious. I honestly held off on buying it for the longest time thanks to Linkara's review, but it really, really is just pure fun.

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52Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty for dangerous humans on Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:45 pm

Zenyn

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Acknowledged.

Did you read any of the DC Young Animal line? I did them all. So much flavour. I was not happy that they had to end their first wave of titles.
It's still there with fewer new ones.

53Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:09 am

TheFirmament1

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For some reason, I have a copy of Final Crisis lying around in my room.

Should I try reading it? Is it any good? What should I read beforehand?

54Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:11 am

Royta/Raeng

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I really enjoyed Young Animal Doom Patrol, though I still prefer Morrison's original.

Regarding Final Crisis. You can, but you'd have no clue what's going on. It features pretty much every character and concept of DC as a sort of final chapter, you'll never be fully ready I'd say. At least knowing what a Green Lantern is, who Darkseid is and how the Fourth World works should be the basic requirements to reading it.

Probably one of my favourite books of all time, but very, very high entry.

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55Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:55 pm

TheFirmament1

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>Green Lantern
You mean the Green Lantern Corps? What sort of things would I have to know about them, beyond the fact that they're the guardians of the universe?

>Darkseid
Ruler of Apokalips, once worked at McDonald's. Nemesis of the JL. That's about all I know.

>Fourth World
Yeah, I got no idea as to what that is.

56Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:23 pm

Royta/Raeng

Royta/Raeng
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This should help somewhat! It was, ironically, one of the first comics I had read. Didn't understand shit haha. Came back years later and loved it!

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57Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty darkseid is...smelly on Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:11 am

Zenyn

Zenyn
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@Royta/Raeng wrote:I really enjoyed Young Animal Doom Patrol,

Just the one? Dang. I prepared for your critical evaluation of  MOTHER PANIC. Neutral

@TheFirmament1 wrote:

>Darkseid
Ruler of Apokalips, once worked at McDonald's.


Huh. Never knew that. Did he do the counter or the grill? Or back and forth?
I guess every cosmic tyrant has to start somewhere. A real pain to lose the smell after a shift, too.

58Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:47 pm

Royta/Raeng

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Ha! Yeah I had some of the other titles on my list originally, but I only have this much time to spend sadly. So I tend to stick to only a few monthlies. Which ones were your favourite so far in that publication?

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59Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:49 pm

Birdman


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Finished Getter Robo Devolution. That shit was insane. I'd love to see it animated.

60Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty all that flavour on Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:00 am

Zenyn

Zenyn
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@Royta/Raeng wrote: Which ones were your favourite so far in that publication?

All of 'em. No kidding. After DP I think I tried Mother Panic first. And after that I knew I was interested in the whole line.
I can give a short jab about it and you can see what strikes your fancy.

You know D00M Patrol. But did you hear about Milk Wars? Continues after Nada and crosses with JLA. Very much a DP arc and pairs the Young Animal characters with "normal" heroes. Functions as an introduction, too. 1 tpb.

Shade the Changing Girl (later Changing Woman). Spiritual. Earth life through the lense of an alien visitor. Where madness is a physical element. 3 tpb's.

Cave Carson. Science-fiction adventure. Trippy and wild in writing and art. A touch of a mature cartoon show. 3 tpb's.

Mother Panic. Vigilantism. No noble child vows at its parents grave here. Very paced in the current industry's rage-age of origin stories. Gotham A.D. takes it elseworld. 3 tpb's.

Bug! The Adventures of Forager. Adventure. Through the mindspace of Jack Kirby. A Silver Age letter of love. 1 tpb.

Eternity Girl. Originated from Milk Wars. Metaphysical and gender-sensitive. I was impressed. To say it is in a Morrison vein is easy, but to sense its own shape is to relish it. 1 tpb.

Anyway, see what sticks if you have to be picky.

I crashed myself with Batman for the next month or more. Just to get collections that I'm sure of are limited in print and will inflate in price. It's much and I won't be a glutton. One issue a day is my sensibility.

They are:

Kings of Fear. Started it. I dislike some of Madsen's colours. Too cold in some panels. Maybe it's the progression of digital. Sigh.

The DC Universe by Neil Gaiman. First try with Gaiman. Shocked I know alright. And yes, it includes Whatever Happend to the Caped Crusader. We'll see...

Shadow of the Bat. Volumes 2, 3, and 4. Ties in to big events like Knightfall and No Man's Land. Neutral I've to see how Grant got through that.

61Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:12 pm

TheFirmament1

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Just finished The Long Halloween. Ho-lee shit, that was amazing. Easy 9.5/10 for me.

62Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:40 am

Royta/Raeng

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I still love those final few pages, I read Dark Victory as my first comic (the sequel, I did bad research), and it still took me aback. Fantastic comic. Dark Victory is better in my massively biased opinion though haha! Glad to hear you enjoyed it :)

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63Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:07 am

TheFirmament1

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I asked for recommendations on reddit for good comics in general, and I've got a lot on my plate.

Monstress, Dark Victory, Redneck, Invincible, Hellboy, Saga, I Kill Giants, Y - The Last Men, on top of my already insane backlog for others, including and not limited to Blue Exorcist, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, Gunsmith Cats, Black Lagoon, and 20th Century Boys.

Also, I recently finished both Monster, and Year One. Monster sadly wasn't really my thing (Although I could see you liking it, so maybe give it a run), and Year One was really good as well. I think I enjoyed Long Halloween more.

If I were to recommend some other manga to you, since you're more a comic guy, Berserk is definitely a must-read (And not for the faint of heart, but I'm completely certain you'd be fine), as with JoJo. Keep in mind that part 7 and 8 are a reboot, so if you want to just see the best of JoJo, go straight to those two parts, but the parts before are generally pretty good. Also, you must read them in colour, because those two parts especially are gorgeous. Vinland Saga, Kaiji and Vagabond (Although that's been on 'hiatus' since 2015) are also series I love, with Kaiji being my personal favourite comic, period.

I tried to stick to more Seinen series, partially because that's what I tend to lean towards (But I can honestly take anything), and partially because I think they'd be more your taste.

64Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:27 am

Royta/Raeng

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Mostly good comics from what I know on that list. Might I recommend at least one Grant Morrison strip. He's the one guy that takes the medium further than most do, which I highly appreciate. Flex Mentallo is the biggest mind-trip around, same with his work on Invisibles, Doom Patrol and Annihilator.

I have Berserk at home, still have to read it haha.

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65Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:02 pm

TheFirmament1

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Not really sure where to start with Morrison's work.

66Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:18 pm

Royta/Raeng

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If I had to recommend one to start with, it's WE3. If you were to only read one comic of his, read the stand-alone issue "PAX AMERICANA" just to see what he is about. You can read it here: https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/The-Multiversity-Pax-Americana/Full?id=95401

EDIT: PAX is a comic that's part of a bigger narrative, but it is still pretty stand alone. What's beautiful about it is that it shows just how experimental Morrison can be. PAX can be read in any order panelwise, back to end, end to back etc, it all works, and each reading order gives a new piece of a larger puzzles. He's really great at those things.

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67Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:14 am

Birdman


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How's The Witcher series?

I've only played the third game, but if the books are anything like the game I'll probably love them.

I need to find out if they're available for Kindle, because I'm not paying for shipping that kind of weight.

68Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:50 am

Royta/Raeng

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The Last Wish is excellent, but the others are more generic Fantasy in my eyes and not something I enjoyed all too much. But seriously The Last Wish is fantastic.

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69Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:32 am

Birdman


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How do you define generic fantasy?

70Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:59 am

Birdman


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Bought the first book. Didn't even know they were released here.

When I was in the book store I forgot which was the first book and looked it up and found some posts about reading order. Some people said to read The Last Wish first but I don't agree with their reasoning. I'll read in release order.

71Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:19 am

Royta/Raeng

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Last Wish is mostly recommended to start with since the first book in release order wasn't translated at the time. It didn't get a translation until a few years ago when Witcher III hit store's shelves.

Regarding 'generic fantasy', it missed the whole play on fairytales for me which is what made the game's mythos and also the Last Wish so entertaining for me. In its stead was a tale of a chosen one, elves, and I don't know, felt like I read something like that a dozen times already. I did like how it played with certain taboo like one character getting the shits and a stomach infection during their trip.

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72Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:01 pm

Birdman


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What I read was to read Last Wish first because it's all the Geralt stuff like what you see in the games.

Translation order? That still doesn't make sense. The author wouldn't have intended that.

>generic fantasy
So like Lord of the Rings?

First chapter alone has all the staples: wizards, elves, dwarves, humans, other critter I'm not familiar with, the fact that they tend to stick to their own.

But, that first part is this huge argument which I found interesting. It's also kind of odd how they use somewhat modern language at times. Wasn't expecting them to start discussing racism either.

Also that part about dwarven women was pretty funny.

73Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Thu Jan 16, 2020 8:02 am

Royta/Raeng

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No I mean, it was just plain unavailable when those comments were made and a lot of people still echo those comments because they are un-educated. Last Wish was the first book available fully translated in 2007, while the first book written - Sword of Destiny - wasn't translated into English until 2015.

> Generic Fantasy
I don't put LOTR there per se, that's like calling the original DOOM a 'typical FPS', but yeah, that.

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74Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:58 pm

Birdman


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I don't understand why fans made a reading order. You just read by release date.

Finished The Last Wish. Pretty good and makes me want to go back to the game for some reason. A lot of things are different from the show. Stuff that would probably cost a lot to set up and effects to create.

And holy shit, the amount of times he casts Axia on his horse! He's going to give it brain damage.

There was one point where he fired a focused shot of Aard and it described it as beam of light. Don't remember that being in the game.

Really disappointed that the story about that monster with house didn't make it into the show.



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75Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:47 am

TheFirmament1

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Eeeeeeeesh.

Jagaaaaaan (6 a's) is some seriously good stuff (But also extremely edgy a lot of times, to the point of absurdity). The art's some of the most impressive I've seen in quite some time.

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Basically, it's if you took Junji Ito's surreal/uncanny valley style, Parasyte's action, and combined the monster designs of the two. 100% worth a read.

Mikami should make a horror-action game based on this. Could also see Miyazaki pulling this off pretty well.

76Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:59 am

Birdman


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Read Sword of Destiny and got out Shogun from the library. Got Tale of Genji waiting for pickup but might cancel because Shogun is huge.

77Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:04 am

Birdman


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Started reading Shogun and liking it so far. Couldn't take Genji though and returned it.

Still going through The Witcher books and requested Dune at the library.

78Books and Comics - Page 2 Empty Re: Books and Comics on Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:33 am

Royta/Raeng

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Let me know how you like Dune. That book changed sci-fi for me honestly.

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