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1Biomutant Empty Biomutant Thu 16 Jul 2020 - 22:44

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UANjcVtn4s

I've been following this since its reveal over 2 years ago. It hasn't received a lot of hype, understandably, but looks pretty neat.

What do you guys think?

2Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Fri 17 Jul 2020 - 0:09

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Looks like a classic ps2 title, very excited but time will tell. I disagree on lack of hype, the new trailers get about 300k views which is a lot honestly, I have seen a lot of people excited for it.
Everything they show looks rad.

3Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Fri 17 Jul 2020 - 2:52

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Yea you're right. I guess I just forgot how the market is nowadays. Have to keep my expectations in check. But with that considered I'm glad that people are excited for this game.

4Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Fri 17 Jul 2020 - 6:18

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I was quite surprised with the setting. I was thinking of Resident Evil when I saw that title!

5Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Fri 17 Jul 2020 - 8:23

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Sounds pretty cool. Is it multiplayer though?

6Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Fri 17 Jul 2020 - 14:13

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There's no multiplayer confirmed.

The publisher is THQ Nordic so likely won't happen.

7Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Fri 17 Jul 2020 - 15:06

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Game looks pretty interesting, really reminds me of those off-beat PS2 titles that turned out to be gems back in the day. Is that a type of earth-bending I saw near the start?

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8Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Fri 17 Jul 2020 - 15:22

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There are "X-men" style abilities that seem to scale with one of the stats in the game (I'm guessing it's intellect).

9Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Fri 17 Jul 2020 - 22:29

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>No multiplayer
Good.

Sounds really customizable. Will be keeping an eye on this.

10Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Wed 3 Feb 2021 - 15:18

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Announced for May 25th

11Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Mon 26 Apr 2021 - 23:52

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Finally.

12Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Sun 2 May 2021 - 2:36

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Slightly worried about Arkham mechanics. Every battle shown is groups with icons appearing above their heads before attacking.

As long as you can build for long range and snipe I'm good. Haven't seen any sign of that yet. It's all up close with machine guns so far.

13Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Thu 6 May 2021 - 10:47

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There are status effects. I've seen freeze and burn so far.

Go to around 10:28 and soon after he'll do an air combo. Did I just see an enemy step?

14Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Sat 15 May 2021 - 0:25

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The player is trash but it's easy to see there's a lot of cool mechanics here.

There are two fights. Looks like they're using the magic class.

Mobility looks excellent. Instant transition between melee and ranged weapons.

That mushroom ability seems to be a high jump. And it stays on the ground to be used again. You'll even see enemies using it. In the video you'll see some guy bouncing on it repeatedly. It might be that if they walk over it they get stuck bouncing making it work as a trap.

You can lay a poison puddle, and there's a big ice spell. Notice the ground stays frozen. Didn't seem like the enemies were affected. Might be slippery or hopefully able to conduct other abilities like in Divinity OS.

For melee you'll see use of a staff that can pick enemies up and slam them into the ground which can knock down others nearby. There's also izuna drop.

15Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Sat 15 May 2021 - 1:44

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Watching again and looking for details I might have missed.

-There's freeze status.

-Enemy threw a grenade that created a pool of what looked like oil. Effect unknown. Hopefully it sets on fire.

-Enemies attack from off screen. Good.




16Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Sat 15 May 2021 - 11:54

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If we can't turn off the comic book words, I can't play this. So distracting. It literally covers up enemies.

17Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Sat 15 May 2021 - 23:17

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I heard you can turn off the narrator so maybe the words can be removed.

I'll be getting it day one. Will let you know.

18Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Mon 17 May 2021 - 11:37

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Pewdiepie has a 3 hour video. I'm not posting it because it was painful to watch. It's amazing that he's an adult who has been playing games for years and still sucks so hard it doesn't make sense. He has no reaction time. No ability to analyze. He just hits buttons.

He doesn't read explanations. He spent ages shooting this enemy with a shield when the game had just told him to break it with melee.

Only good points were that he showed you can shoot thrown objects and that the mushroom does trap enemies in a bouncing state. Large enemies won't bounce and actually squash the mushroom flat.

19Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Tue 25 May 2021 - 6:09

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>Mushroom high jump and can be used as an attack to bounce enemies. More than one can be set bouncing and there's collisions.

>Rock attack appears under enemies and looks to knock them back quite far.

>Homing laser looks pretty basic.

>Storm Hop looks like a slam AoE that causes some kind of status. Notice the enemy vomits.

>Mucus Bubble gives you a higher bouncing jump and you can roll over enemies and they stick to it like Katamari. You can pop the bubble and send them flying.

>Mothmouth looks like a poison shot that makes the enemy run around in panic.

>Vile Bile creates a large pool of poison.

Picked it up today. Will start as soon as I get home.

20Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Tue 25 May 2021 - 9:02

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You can turn off the comic book words.

21Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Tue 25 May 2021 - 21:52

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Awesome. I am about to try this on pc with the EA pass game pass thing.

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Looks like classes have some unique perks but you can learn all the psi and bio mutation abilities no matter what.

Mothmouth is confusion. The video didn't show what actually happens when there's more than one enemy. That projectile will travel from enemy to enemy and infect them if they're close enough. Says it affects all humanoid types. This includes the big guys but I've had it work on these insect things.

Vile Bile is definitely poison. You can just drop it like a trap or come down with it from a jump which is cool.

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Seems there's no stat for gun damage on the characters. Must be from the guns themselves. I'm trying to build for range only so every level up I'm putting points into luck which boosts critical and loot quality.

I'm not liking how encounters work. It's like Amalur. If you move too far away from their original position they run back. Their health even refills. It's stupid. Looks like there will be no long range sniping. Guns are similar to DMC. No weak points or ability to target certain body parts.

23Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Tue 25 May 2021 - 22:13

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>No weak points or ability to target certain body parts

It seemed like it because the auto aim was so severe to the torso.

The deadpool game everyone shit on mixed melee and shooting really well, it had headshots.
If this sucks, I'm just gonna play that again.

24Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Tue 25 May 2021 - 22:45

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If a big guy is holding a barrel or a rocket, you can shoot those.

I'm wondering if the non-auto rifles have any kind of zoom feature.

25Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Wed 26 May 2021 - 1:18

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Holy god this game is janky and I just left the creator. For starters the stats it said I would get seemed to have reset to base. I made a crit breed and class, it said 10% crit, yet when I loaded in it had reset to 4%.
I loaded an old save and it was back to 10%, wtf.
Also everytime I load a save it randomizes my face. How. This game was announced like 6 years ago.

Also WAYYY too much slow mo. getting god of bore vibes. I like the slo mo on gun dodging, but I don't need slo mo when I dodge an attack. It isn't like witch time because I am slo too.

26Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Wed 26 May 2021 - 1:37

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I'm annoyed that any hit cancels confusion. It already barely does damage as enemies swing and shoot randomly. But now I find I can't have them poisoned and confused.

Tried to shoot a group from a distance but nothing happens. You have to get close enough to trigger them.

If I can't get some good status stuff for my gun soon I'll probably drop this.

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I'm done. This game fucking sucks. Last time I ever buy a new release.

Fought one of the bosses and had to do it on a jet ski and try to tow floating mines under it. Repulsive gameplay. Selling this trash.

28Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Wed 26 May 2021 - 2:19

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The auto aim is terrible too. No way to disable it. I am smart enough to aim at an enemy thank you game.
Play deadpool it is way better

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Wow. That is very disappointing to read.

30Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Wed 26 May 2021 - 2:47

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I don't think it is terrible combat wise like Birdman. It is basically an arkham game that has parries and juggles.
It seems to play itself a little less than spider man or ghosts of tsushima.
For instance the big guys have a grab move, so you can't just arkham parry your way to victory, you have to pay some attention.
If the loot is cool I will probably play it, will have to see how different the weapon types are.

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I don't know much about the melee. It's the ranged combat that's disappointing. I only play range in build RPGs.

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Yeah the range is like shurikens in NG, it might be viable later. Reloading is so slow

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Dead Eye class has some kind of quick reload thing. Once you get down to your last few bullets they blink red. Press R1 and they're all back.

Range works in combat well enough but I wanted sniping from hilltops and shit like that. Horizon Zero Dawn and Dragon's Dogma were excellent for this.

34Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Wed 26 May 2021 - 4:12

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I am done this game is absolutely not good.

Core issues with the combat:

The game remembers your combo position like dodge offset, but it remembers it for like 3 seconds. The issue is the 5th hit in the combo is a slow move that I cannot dodge cancel.
I was fighting a troll who I had to dodge through his slow stomp, I had to count 3 seconds in my head for the combo to "reset" to avoid getting that un cancelled 5th hit. Every other game stopping attacking resets the string, not in biomutant.
Also get this, if you dodge it resets your combo. Completely backwards.
When you parry an enemy it stuns them.
The parry button is the same button for launching a stunned enemy. So if you parry an enemy and stun him, and another enemy attacks, THERE IS NO WAY TO PARRY THE NEW ENEMY.
You just launch the other guy, WHICH CAN GET YOU HIT.
Get this, there are two buttons that launch the enemy, the parry button(LB) and the Y button.
They both do the SAME THING. Why not just have Y launch and the parry button stay a parry.

The narrator is pull your hair out bad. It is like he is reading a kids book to you. It is actually a bit insulting. Even if you turn all voice off, all of the dialogue is written like a shit story book.
"The leader looks at you funny, he wonders what the whatchmahoot is under your belt, you give him a huggly wuggly."
That is the reason I am done with this. The combat works and I like the designs, but the dialogue, which there is a ton of, is the worst thing I have ever seen.
None of the characters speak by the way, it is all narrated back it you like you are 5.

35Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Wed 26 May 2021 - 7:14

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It's pretty bad.

What baffles me continually is how do devs keep doing this? There's like two decades of games, most of them ancient, that control and play beautifully. How can they not see this and learn? Do they just ignore everything that came before?

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This game seems like an action game made by people who don't play, like, or understand action games.

Looks like the director is from the Just Cause series, those games have horrendous shooting so, yeah, makes since.

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The framerates on Pro was pretty bad.

Sometimes just moving the camera made it stutter or when it would swing in cutscenes.

Heard they're already doing a big update. Something about making attacks give more feedback. Doubt it fixes any of the actual bad mechanics. Not going to be following it.

38Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Sat 29 May 2021 - 4:14

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Wow. That is very disappointing to read.

Very. I was eying this game for a long time. I also heard that the game is very empty. Enemy encounters are very sparse and don't last long. Doesn't make sense for such a combat-focused game.

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There's like two decades of games, most of them ancient, that control and play beautifully. How can they not see this and learn?

Strange how this genre (or subgenre) seems to be regressing so much. I remember when shooters and racers played like crap; a solid game was rare.

The framerates on Pro was pretty bad.

Might be time to upgrade. I'm not playing any next-gen game on the pro. It can barely run games from its own generation.

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>Might be time to upgrade.
Next thing I plan to get is a gaming PC.

40Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Sun 30 May 2021 - 2:20

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Question: I can download it for free on EA play Pro PC. Is it even worth trying? I was eyeing this game for years thinking it will be good at least. It seems like it sucks donkey balls tbh. Everyone hates it lol

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Birdman wrote:>Might be time to upgrade.
Next thing I plan to get is a gaming PC.

Do it! Best purchase I've made in my gaming history. So many benefits of PC gaming, especially emulation. I have my whole PS2, Gamecube and Wii library on my PC. Also, RPCS3 emulator is beasting nowadays so I have a shit load of PS3 games and they run mostly at 4k 60 FPS, some with 60 FPS patches released by the Devs! Awesome stuff.

42Biomutant Empty Re: Biomutant Sun 30 May 2021 - 11:35

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Gaming PCs are fantastic - it's just a shame that now is the worst time to get into PC gaming with hardware prices being through the roof. It depends what sort of hardware you're after though, whether you're prepared to buy pre owned etc.

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>Is it even worth trying?

Yes! Curious to hear more thoughts

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