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1Babylon's Fall Empty Babylon's Fall Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:27 pm

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Guess this shows it, Platinum and Square became bunk-buddies after Nier: Tomato.

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2Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:09 am

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What is it with devs not showing gameplay? Surely they have some available?

3Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:11 am

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I know right? Feels...so weird. Like with a sequel I get it, you can get hype. But this tells me NOTHING.

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4Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:36 am

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Then let's speculate!

Looks like that knight didn't have his own weapon, and has some sort of energy tendril that stole the enemy's weapon.

Could it be indicative of a weapon stealing mechanic? Not something we see often, in fact, I think the only game I know of is El Shaddai.

5Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:02 am

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There's nothing really known about the director yet. Kamiya doesn't seem to be involved, Inada made the blog post about it - but since he's the head of the whole studio that could mean anything.

The huge suits of armor don't look really mobile, would be interesting to see a Japanese developer make an action game about tanking hits instead of dodging them, would be cool to see how that would work. Tendrils seem interesting, perhaps a weapon steal mechanic as you note. Could also be an indication of the weapon being more ranged ala Kratos' blades of chaos.

Here's the lore, courtesy of https://www.reddit.com/user/captain_tedious:
All the text I could make out below. Some of the dates may slightly be off as they didn't always stop changing at the same point the text was most clear. Will update this if anyone spots any mistakes.
CE 5000 Discovery of the Oversoul: During Albenland's era of expansion, its people discover an unknown energy known as the Oversoul.
CE 5017 The Age of Dawn: After years of experimentation, the Helos Empire succeeds at developing weapons that harness the Oversoul.
CE 5061 The Oversoul Prophecies: A small group of seers hailing forma ll kingdoms use crystallized Oversoul fragments to predict the future and write down these prophecies in the Ephesian Book.
CE 5087 The Apocalypse: The seers have visions of an all consuming darkness.
CE 5096 Waland's Journey: By the order of the Helos Empire, Waland travels to the darklands to the far south foretold by the Ephesian Book as the location of mankind's revival.
CE 5109 The Soul Riots: With resentment rising against the ruling class over its use of the Oversoul, riots break out among the masses.
CE 5111 World War: As the rulers of each kingdom turn against their respective populaces, the riots escalate into full-blown war.
CE 5200 Divine Punishment: Disgusted by humanity's unwillingness to learn from its past mistakes, the elder gods unleash their wrath upon mankind.
CE 5205 Birth of a Goddess: With the purpose of rescuing humanity from the brink of extinction a new goddess Gaia is born.
CE 5208 Birth of a New World: Gaia creates a new world in order to give humanity one last chance.
CE 5220 Age of Harmony: Humans begin to inhabit the new world, and a period of peace follows.
CE 5338 Scholars of Gaia: Concerned about people losing their faith in Gaia, the high priest Darius forms a consort known as the Scholars of Gaia.
CE 5356 War of Beliefs: Unable to overcome their ideological differences, the Scholars of Gaia and the Helios Order start engaging in frequent skirmishes.
CE 5347 End of a Dream: The public execution of a nonbeliever by the Scholars of Gaia creates tension among the masses
CE 5385 Spread of the Soul Plague: The unexplained outbreak of the soul plague prompts the different factions to capitalize on the people's fear and expand their efforts to convert the masses.
CE 5430 New World Academy: Fearing for the future of mankind after rediscovering the Ephesian Book, the seer Maria forms the New World Academy amid the rapidly worsening war.
CE 5450 Punishment: On the Day of Judgment, Gaia turns against mankind.
CE 5475 Awakening: Deep within the Shrine of Souls, the Nomads are born.
CE 5500 Rebirth: Led by the Nomads, Humanity strikes back against Gaia.

EDIT: first 'screenshot' / 'poster' showed four characters standing under the logo. Perhaps its a team-game? Or a medival styled beat'm up like Dragon's Crown?

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6Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:32 am

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>Mobility
Possibly, but that conflicts with how quick the tendril could strike.

I see the word 'soul' used a bit in the text. We could be looking at a possession mechanic of some sort.

7Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:04 am

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Is this the “bring new innovations to the genre” game that was teased? Baby Loyds is it?

Well I can tell you: Nothing can innovate more than KNACK$ 2 can. #GetKnackedOrGetOut

8Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:28 am

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Is this the “bring new innovations to the genre” game that was teased? Baby Loyds is it? 

Unconfirmed. We do know the same team as Nier: Tomato is working on it with the exception of Taro. I think this is Platinum knowing where the money is and playing on it.

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9Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:04 am

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We still know basically nothing about this game.

Safe to say it's been delayed?

10Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Tue Sep 03, 2019 8:19 am

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I think Platinum Games is spacing their reveals. Let the hype for Astral Chain sink in and then hook us with some Bayonetta 3 footage, and when that's released they'll pump out more Babylon's Fall.

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11Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:24 pm

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New information just given on the game in the latest State of Play from Sony.

It's a basic action game so far. Big enviroments, Souls-like aesthetic (aka, Medival with influences of Berserk). What interested me most was that you have a grapple that can be used like Nero/ Donte where you hook towards a foe or them to you. You can also grapple weapons away from foes or grab them and slamdunk them.

Might be a PS4 exclusive.

Here's the footage:

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12Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:01 pm

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Looks a bit like NieR: Automata with the flying swords. Also seems to have a timed dodge counter.

I think it's coming to PC as well.

13Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:31 pm

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Looks like some kind of sword summon ability.

14Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:45 pm

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Check out this 'quality' and 'in-depth' gameplay discussion.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/691087-playstation-4/78242516

15Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:06 am

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Yeah I saw that discussion too, only just now made my post. Honestly I'm interested, not super excited yet, but I am interested. Will be picking it up unless multiplayer is revealed to be a really big focus.

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16Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:57 pm

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So... We finally get a new trailer, and it's a 4-player co-op live service game. My interest in this one was already not particularly high, but yeah, way to drop it even further.

And on top of that... The game is not exactly pleasant to look at, in my opinion.

17Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:27 am

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Nope’d outta this one real quick.

18Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:17 am

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Live services. Microtransactions. From Platinum? This has to be a joke. Some kind of troll set up.

19Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:59 am

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It's published by Square Enix, so no surprises that it looks like a dogshit GaaS title. Will flop even harder than Avengers.

20Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:34 pm

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But Platinum is agreeing to these terms. Agreeing to microtransactions.

21Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:43 pm

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Not necessarily. We don't know what their contract looks like, hell it's very possible they might have only been hired to work on the combat engine and then leave the rest to Square - we don't know the details. That said, Platinum Games isn't the saint it was anymore imo. Their glory days of making hit upon hit upon hit that were must buys has past I feel.

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22Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:04 am

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If Square Enix are financing the game, I don't know that Platinum has any say in the matter. As Raeng says, their reputation has taken a hit over the last few years. Whether we can blame them for this or not, I can at least say I'm not interested in buying a GaaS title with microtransactions from any dev. Hard pass from me, they MAY get my attention once the game is bargain bin (or "morbid curiosity") price.

23Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:23 am

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> I don't know that Platinum has any say in the matter.
They have the say of not participating.

It's a shame. The game actually sounds really cool.

24Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:32 am

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I signed up for the beta thing so we'll see.

25Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:34 pm

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Played the demo.

Seems decent. Chose the archer.

But as soon as I get to the main village and see all the daily quests, season, festival crap I was like NOPE.

26Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:28 am

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> daily quests
> seasons
> festival

Excuse me what the fuck? what the fuck happened to this game.

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27Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:51 am

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Not suprised by how awful this sounds. As soon as we knew it was to be a "service" title, it was likely that all this shit would find its way in. Very disappointing. I fear Bayo3 may be the last "true" Platinum game, and even that game I'm a little worried about.

28Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Wed Mar 16, 2022 5:34 am

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Heard the mechanics open up much later. Actually looks good but live services kills it.

Scared for if/when Capcom decides to make another Dragon's Dogma.

29Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Sun May 01, 2022 7:27 am

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30Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:49 am

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i just heard about this game for the first time. holy crow, no wonder:

The game was released for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 5 on March 3, 2022. The game received generally negative reviews from critics, and was a significant commercial disaster for Square Enix, with the game only reaching a concurrent player count of less than 1,200 on release day and declining sharply afterwards.[2][3] Six months after the game's release, Square Enix announced the game's servers will be shut down in February 2023.[4]

On Steam, the game has an all-time high of 1,166 concurrent players, which fell to just one player in May 2022.[2]


god.............. DAMN!!!! when's the last time a game flopped this hard (and deservedly so)?

it's been taken off the steam store and when the game's servers shut down in 4 months, you can't play it anymore-- and i'm not just talking about the online features and the fact that you'll never receive new content despite that being the entire point, but the super cool thing is that you won't be able play it at all, even offline, ever again. your game is now a paper weight. this game's very existence was a flash in the pan. really think about that.

turning video games into a disposable product like bubblegum is the ultimate degradation of the medium.

31Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Thu Nov 10, 2022 1:11 am

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And they said this has not discouraged them from live services shit. Terrifying.

32Babylon's Fall Empty Re: Babylon's Fall Thu Nov 10, 2022 3:37 am

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Birdman wrote:And they said this has not discouraged them from live services shit. Terrifying.

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